I agree with you. The only reason I can think of is as I said, to provide it 
as a temporary solution if another screen reader decides to give us the 
silent treatment.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kk." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?


> Can I ask, why do they bother with it, when jaws is fully functional? it
> doesn't make sense to me. The voice is disgusting, and I wouldn't use it 
> at
> all.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrew Head" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>
>
>> Hi KK,
>> Narrator is a separate screen reader provided by microsoft. However,
>> microsoft themselves recommend it is only to be used as a temporary 
>> screen
>> reader. I have only used it when jaws has stopped working and all I have
>> done with narrator is to try and get jaws back. After that, I've closed
>> it.
>> Each time I've loded Narrator, I've recieved the spoken message which
>> basically says Narrator is not a fully functional screen reader and you
>> would do better to use something different.
>> I personally don't like the voices in narrator either. I'm not bashing
>> narrator, just saying pointing out that really, it's true and better to
>> use
>> jaws or something else.
>> from Andrew
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "kk." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>
>>
>>> Could someone please explain to me what the narrator does and how does 
>>> it
>>> compare or work with jaws please? first time I realised there was such a
>>> thing.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Donald Marang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 8:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I currently have 9 choices available in Vista.  I had used the extra CD
>>>>that
>>>> came with JAWS to install other SAPI5  voices.  I believe that the
>>>> voices
>>>> that I installed were the Real Speak voices from Scansoft.  Karen
>>>> (Australian) is my chosen default.
>>>>
>>>> Don Marang
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "mattias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> nope vista have only one
>>>>> named anna
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>>>>> Fran: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Devona Abel
>>>>> Skickat: den 8 augusti 2008 20:03
>>>>> Till: [email protected]
>>>>> Amne: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have xp you have to put up with Sam.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for now so do I.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, vista has more then one voice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Devona
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  From: Mike & Barbara
>>>>>  To: [email protected]
>>>>>  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:05 PM
>>>>>  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Devona,
>>>>>
>>>>>  It comes in handy in a pinch.  Like if I am having a problem with
>>>>> Jaws.
>>>>>  would you happen to have directions on how to change Sam's voice to a
>>>>> better
>>>>>  one that you are willing to share?  If you do, I and many others 
>>>>> would
>>>>> truly
>>>>>  appreciate it.  Thank you very much.  Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  From: "Devona Abel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>  To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:54 AM
>>>>>  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Why would you want Sam anyway?
>>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>    From: Mike & Barbara
>>>>>    To: [email protected]
>>>>>    Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:25 AM
>>>>>    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Hi Jitendra,
>>>>>
>>>>>    All the voices work except Microsoft Sam.  This is the message I 
>>>>> get
>>>>> when
>>>>>  I
>>>>>    arrow to MS Sam below.  The voices that are there are SAPI voices.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Speech Properties
>>>>>    This voice cannot be played.  Please try selecting another voice or
>>>>>    selecting a different audio output device.
>>>>>    OK
>>>>>
>>>>>    Thanks much.  Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>    From: "Jitendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>    To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>    Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:53 AM
>>>>>    Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator not speaking?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Hello, try running narrator while  another screen-reader like jaws
>>>>> is
>>>>>    running, and tell the error comes.
>>>>>    another thing to be noted: narrator has only 2 files: narrator.exe
>>>>> and
>>>>>    narhook.dll so no easy chance to corruption, so go into your speech
>>>>>    settings in ctrl panel,
>>>>>    on the text-to-speech page, see if the voices installed are 
>>>>> speaking
>>>>> or
>>>>>    not, when you arrow up or down to select one,
>>>>>    if not, talk back to me.
>>>>>    Thank you, Jitendra.
>>>>>    Skype: Jeet.delhi
>>>>>
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>>>>
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