This is so crazy! I thought I had tried the read all visible cells with data
command, but figured it was worth another try. I opened the first excel file
and the command worked like a charm. My excitement was short lived because
when I opened the next file, the command wouldn't read even the cells I
could access through normal navigation. The insert shift c or r commands
read only info in a single cell. The good news is at this point, I've just
about finished the work with this batch of spreadsheets, and my other Excel
files still seem to be fine. I'm wondering if the federal government agency
that produced the problem spreadsheets did something in the design that Jaws
just can't handle. Thanks for all your help.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel problems with Jaws
Have you tried the read all visible cells with data command
(control-shift-d) or read all cells in the row (control-shift-r for older
JAWS and insert-shift-r for new ones) and read all cells in the column
(control-shift-c or insert-shift-c) do anything good??? Using
control-shift-d, though, only reads the cells visible on the screen, not
all the cells. Insert-shift-r reads all cells in the row whether they are
on the screen or not, and likewise insert-shift-c reads everything in a
column whether it is on screen or not.
At 06:36 PM 4/6/2010, you wrote:
I appreciate all the suggestions from listers on the problems with Excel.
I'm still struggling with the forms. Part of the problem, I think is that
the spreadsheets are just ridiculously complex. The thing that is the most
challenging is that I know there is text that I just can't get Jaws to
read no matter what cursor I use. With the Jaws cursor, Jaws will read
parts of several lines but won't move past a certain point. And then there
is text whichJaws will read when I do a say line, but when I try to read
cell by cell, I can't get a cursor to the last cell to check the numbers
more carefully, which I want to do because it's hard to keep all that info
straight in my mind.
Thanks, Shari
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sun Sounds of Arizona"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel problems with Jaws
Sometimes, you need to refresh the screen also. In complex spreadsheets,
particularly if you are editing a lot, the screen gets cluttered and you
need to hit Ins plus Esc which redraws the screen and often clears up
these
kinds of problems.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel problems with Jaws
A partial solution is to use goto for selecting text. Either f5 or
control-g gives you the go to dialog box. Then enter what you want to
select. For example if you want to select rows 1 through ten, you would
type f5, then 1:10. You can select contiguous cells, joining them with
colon as above, or non-contiguous cells, joining them with comma.
I would have thought that unloading and reloading JAWS would straighten
things out when you're trying to read, though. Excel is hard for JAWS,
being so densely formatted, but usually unload/reload unscrambles it.
Good luck!
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