this is enough, like the mod said, if you have issued with FS, take it off list, and quit cluttering the list with this nonsense.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Watson" <rwat...@eckeranch.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!


Good afternoon listers,

just to add to this discussion...
I called fs support to discuss the problems with vs2010 and jfw. The person I spoke with said that it didn't work reliably and that he hoped it would someday.


-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!


I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will come
are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money  - and that
is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out onto us and we'll just take anything because we need it ...itit's easy: here it
is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think
that  these releases  are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course
they are not. The government  buys  88 percent of these programs   so the
price  is based on that.
I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous  what we pay for
these programs. They should be shamed of themselves.
"She brings me good things."

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'From: "Saylien Brown" <say...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!

Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ.

Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in
my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC.

I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They
really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and
other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time
around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart.

At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote:

Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think  they  put out this build  just
to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is
a rip off.  They should be ashamed of themselves  for  rippping us off.
Come on FS! Get it together.
"She brings me good things."

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From: "Saylien Brown" <say...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!

Good morning,

I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed
up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major
update until version 12.x.

This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried.

First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons.
Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain
elements of a web page to read it faster.

And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end
Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something
to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows.
Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it
go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back.

Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x
perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes.

Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do
away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them
on and off.

If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never
done this before, until now.

Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening.


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