I haven't called time out for a long time but today is the day.
David Ferrin
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I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up 
too.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Watson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!


> Good afternoon listers,
>
> just to add to this discussion...
> I called fs support to discuss the problems with vs2010 and jfw. The
> person I spoke with said that it didn't work reliably and that he hoped it
> would someday.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
>
>
> I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will
> come
> are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money  - and that
> is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out
> onto
> us and we'll just take anything  because we need it ...itit's easy: here
> it
> is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think
> that  these releases  are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course
> they are not. The government  buys  88 percent of these programs   so the
> price  is based on that.
> I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous  what we pay for
> these programs. They should be shamed of themselves.
> "She brings me good things."
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> 'From: "Saylien Brown" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
>
>> Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ.
>>
>> Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in
>> my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC.
>>
>> I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They
>> really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and
>> other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this
>> time
>> around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart.
>>
>> At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>>Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think  they  put out this build  just
>>>to get some cash flow - it was  put out  before its time. Basically, it
>>>is
>>>a rip off.  They should be ashamed of themselves  for  rippping us off.
>>>Come on FS! Get it together.
>>>"She brings me good things."
>>>
>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>From: "Saylien Brown" <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
>>>
>>>>Good morning,
>>>>
>>>>I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed
>>>>up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major
>>>>update until version 12.x.
>>>>
>>>>This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried.
>>>>
>>>>First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons.
>>>>Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain
>>>>elements of a web page to read it faster.
>>>>
>>>>And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end
>>>>Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something
>>>>to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows.
>>>>Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it
>>>>go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x
>>>>perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes.
>>>>
>>>>Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do
>>>>away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them
>>>>on and off.
>>>>
>>>>If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never
>>>>done this before, until now.
>>>>
>>>>Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening.
>>>>
>>>>
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