Lennie,
I took an introductory course in programming at our community college in the
'80s. We used punch cards and I try to think of that as training in
patience. What a pain! It was assembler and it was, indeed, the intro
class. There were a few smart terminals on the campus, but not for us
beginners.
rob Hill
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From: "Lennie" <lenni...@mchsi.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12
Hi David and Gerald,
Man! I must be old! I go back before COBOL to
assembly language using IBM 360/30 with 30K of
storage and IBM 360/40 with 40K of storage. There
were times my programs ran out of storage and it
took some doing to make it fit.
Everything was done with punched cards which I
had to punched most of the programs myself. Those
keypunch operators had a difficult time with assembly language programs.
I even did some programming with the IBM 1400
series using autocoder. Anyone on the list ever
wired a board for am E A M (Electronic accounting machine)?
It is nice to know that I am not the only one on
the list. I must be the oldest one on the list though?
Old programmer never die,they just fade away. Take care.
Lennie
At 09:06 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote:
Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and
370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads?
I still have lots of them laying around. Lol!
Gerald
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me
if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed
to
do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was
a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out.
David Ferrin
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to
skydive
twice.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Øyvind Lode - Forums" <for...@lode.is>
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C#
compilers below.
I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming
<smile>
So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the
programming list.
The C# compiler is located in
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit
version
and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe
Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console /
command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc.
The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework.
I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your
path environment variable.
Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when
you're
ready to compile your program.
If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type:
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every
time you compile.
A bit cumbersome to say the least.
So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program
in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs.
To compile the program type:
Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs
This will produce HelloWorld.exe.
If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc.
Good luck!
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez
Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
for .net, how can I compile it once I write it?
On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote:
Python is regarded as a good language for beginners.
Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++.
I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command
line tools.
For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and
compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems.
For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from
www.python.org.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez
Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else?
Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers?
Thanks,
Jorge
On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote:
A lot of languages are available to you.
It depends on what you want to do.
Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet.
C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C
Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular.
I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at:
http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez
Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Hi all:
Just wondering 2 quick things.
First, I"m interested in programing for the Windows platform.
How can I do it?
What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a
JAWS-friendly way?
Thanks,
Jorge
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