Hi margaret, When I right arrow to open speech verboscity & arrow down 1 time I get, verboscity level, beginner highest. This is where you press the spacebar until you hear advanced then, tab to apply, tab to okay & press enter / spacebar. But, if you arrow down 2 times you get, configure verboscity levels, & if you right arrow to open this, you will hear beginner.....!
I did notice that applying the changes was necessary before okaying them to make the changes hold. Let us know if you have any more problems or if you were able to make your changes. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Thomas To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re:Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Mike, All went well with your instructions to change verbosity to Advanced in JAWS 12 until step 4: "4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verbosity level beginner highest." JAWS Just says beginner. Pressing space once results in Application Start Message checked one of 21 or some number like that instead of the expected something about intermediate with a second press saying advanced. I did see a button to restore defaults, but didn't choose it. When I didn't get the expected results, I decided to see if JAWS 12 was still saying dot dot dot after basic etc. and it just said basic. Maybe the JAWS fairies went to work overnight. I know I rebooted last night before I sent my post. With 12, how can I check the verbosity level? I think I saw something in the training section on working with the new setting center and it might be worth a listen. I'll take a look for it and the other 12 training materials after lunch and some caffeine. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Margaret, To set Jaws to the Advanced option do the following; 1. Press Insert + 6 on the numbrer row above the main keyboard, to open the Settings Center then, press control, shift, + D, to open the default settings center for all applications. 2. Arrow down to Speech Verboscity & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to configure verboscity levels & press right arrow to open. 4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verboscity level beginner highest. Press the spacebar 2 times or, until you hear Jaws read, advanced, lowest. 5. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, & press enter / spacebar to save the changes & close the Settings Center. To set your punctuation for some, do the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, for the context menu 2.A. Press the letter H, for Help, then press the letterZ, for the start-up wizard, tab to the punctuation option, & you will be in a combobox so arrow up to some, . Now, tab through the start-up wizard making any other changes if necessary,press the spacebar each time you get to a next button until you get to the finish button, & pressing the spacebar on finish to save any changes & close the start-up wizard. B. If you don't run Jaws from the system tray, Alt + tab, until you land on the Jaws window. Press the Alt key & Jaws should read options. Now, right arrow to help, uparrow to start-up wizard, & press enter. Now follow the rest of steps in step 2.A. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Thomas To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List NamesinWLM2011Headings Hi All, I tried making changes in voices again and may have finally gotten it. JAWS seems to also no longer be saying colon after fwd and parentheses before and after another list that uses parentheses instead of brackets in the subject field which I also wanted to accomplish. I apparently wasn't successful in getting JAWS 12 changed to Advanced since it is saying dot dot dot after Basics etc., but any progress is good. Thanks to everyone who is helping me tame the new beast. Margaret Earlier, I wrote: John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which was one of the things I wanted to do. I'm going to take a break. Any more instructions for making the change permanent would be great. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "john R. Vaughn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM2011Headings Margaret, let me try and help. In jaws 12 and 13 you will need to use the new configuration facility. 1. While in your "in box", hold down the insert key and press the letter "v" as in victor. 2. you are in the quick settings tree view. down arrow through the various controls and when you get to a control you think you need to change, tab once to read the jaws help. Usually, if you want to change an item, you enter on it to check or uncheck an item. see if this helps. John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:31 PM To: jaws-users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM 2011Headings Hi All, Trying to switch from XP Home to 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium with a new version of JAWS, a different e-mail client , synth, and new keyboard at the same time has totally fried my brain and I need some help please with something that should be simple. In Windows Live Mail 2011 and JAWS 12 with Eloquence, JAWS is speaking brackets, parentheses, etc. in the names of lists that appear in the subject field and, at least for now, I'd like to hear only the names without the extraneous symbols being spoken. For example, JAWS says left bracket JAWS dash users right bracket in the subject field for this list. For now, only hearing JAWS Users would make me very happy. I think I have Advanced Verbosity set, but I can't remember if brackets, parentheses are included in punctuation or not. I know I used to be able to use the JAWS dictionary to have list names not speak at all, but I want to see how it goes hearing them minus the extraneous stuff. Do I still do it with the JAWS dictionary or is there some setting somewhere to accomplish it? JAWS 10 on the XP home is saying it the way I prefer Any help would be appreciated. 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