Hi Kimsan, Thanks for pointing it out to me. I think what happened is I had copied as a public link from Drop Box and then created a link from the link in my message because I didn't think the public link worked. When the file opens, try using the Save As command, and make sure the file name is symbols.SBL with nothing following the SBL extension. Tab into the save as type list and choose to save the file as a text file. Remember where it is being saved; you likely want to save it directly into the JAWS destination folder. Find the file and use F2 to rename it. Take the .txt off and have it called symbols.SBL. I think the other link in my message gives you a choice to save the other file.
Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog Brian: When clicking on the dropbox link am I suppose to get the option to save? If so, it just began reading the file. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog You might consider setting a shortcut keystroke for an often used symbol if you are using Word 2010. Freedom Scientific tech support made an Eloq.SBL file available to replace the default one, which makes it possible for JAWS to identify many more symbols in the Word symbols list. Once you find a given symbol that you need to frequently use, you can set up a shortcut key for it. This applies to the Eloquence synthesizer only. The Eloq.SBL file is found by opening your Programs or All Programs group, expanding the version of JAWS, expanding the Explore JAWS submenu, and opening the Explore JAWS settings menu item. It is a good idea to use F2 when focus is on the Eloq.SBL file and add a .BAK to the end of the file name to make it a backup. The replacement Eloq.SBL file can be downloaded from my dropbox by using the following link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/eloq.sbl The new Eloq.SBL file should be put in the same Shared Settings folder where the file being replaced resides. If you want to review all the entries for symbols under the American English group of the file, you will need to open the file using Notepad. Once in Notepad, you can use a Find command for the word English and you should be taken to the American English group. There are thousands of entries in the group. Each entry gives a symbol number, the Unicode number that represents the symbol and the name of the symbol. You can also search for a specific symbol and quickly find its Unicode representation. For example, the Maltese cross is represented by a U+2720, the Star of David as a U+2721, etc. Here is a link to a file that contains a table showing the hex and decimal values for symbols. With the document open in Word, you can perform a Find command to search for a symbol and check column six for its decimal representation that can be typed in by using the Alt key and the number pad. The numbers need to be used from the number pad. Once the new .SBL file has been placed in the Shared Settings folder, you should be able to better read the items in the Word symbols list. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/Codes%20for%20symbols.docx Here is how you can add a shortcut key in Word 2010 to the Maltese cross: 1. Use Alt followed by N followed by U followed by M when in Word 2010 to move into the symbols page of the symbol dialog box. Tab to the >From combo box and use up or down arrow key to select Unicode (hex). It is important to make that selection for all symbols to show correctly. Use tab or shift+tab to the font edit combo box and press A until you find the Arial Unicode MS font. The symbol might be listed under a different font on another system but I found it under the Arial Unicode MS font on my system. Tab to the subset and press D until you find the Dingbats item. Tab into the list of symbols. I had to use right arrow about twenty-eight times until I found the Maltese cross. Tab to the Shortcut key button and press spacebar. In the Press new shortcut key box, use a keystroke that will apply each time you want to enter the symbol. For example, Alt+CTRL+Shift+M could be used for the Maltese cross. Use whatever buttons you get to close and save changes. If you want JAWS to tell you the Unicode value instead of the ANSI value when you use the Read Current Character command three times quickly, you need to make the change in the Settings Center. Move focus into the JAWS interface window. Use Alt+U to go into the utilities menu. Use down arrow to the Settings Center menu choice and press enter key. In the search box type in the word Graphics. Press enter key on the graphics and symbols result. Expand the level and arrow down to the speak character value in hex choice and press spacebar to check the item if it is not already checked. Removing the checkmark will cause the Read Current Character to speak the ASCII code when pressed three times quickly. The code you use with the Alt key and numbers on the number pad is ASCII so you might want to leave it set that way to easily obtain those codes. If you search the Codes for Symbols document for the word check (without the quotes), you will find an entry for a checkmark. In column six of the row, the code is shown as 10003. If number lock is on, you can hold down the alt key and type 10003 on the number pad to insert a checkmark. You can also find it under the symbols dialog box in Word. Follow the same steps shown above for adding a shortcut key to the Maltese Cross, except after setting Dingbats in the subset of the Arial Unicode MS font, tab to the Select a Symbol box and use right arrow key to find either a checkmark or a heavy checkmark. Tab to the insert button and use spacebar to insert the symbol. Otherwise, tab to the button for adding a shortcut key combination and go through that process. If you prefer, you can set up an auto correction entry for an often used symbol instead of a shortcut key combination when using Word 2010. Move to the symbols page of the symbols dialog box by using alt followed by N followed by U followed by m. Make sure that Unicode hex is selected in the from combo box. Find the appropriate symbol. In our examples, you would choose the font as being Arial Unicode MS, the subset as being Dingbat, and use the right arrow key across the select a symbol box to find the symbol to use. With the appropriate symbol selected, tab to the autocorrect button and use spacebar. In the Replace edit combo box type in a string of text that will represent the symbol. Use the Apply, OK and Close buttons as necessary to complete the entries. For example, you could use chkmrk1 to be the text you type to enter the checkmark symbol. Chkmrk2 could be used to type in the heavy checkmark symbol. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Darrin Porter Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog Here, Here! In my job, I have to type the Maltese Cross symbol all the time and would love to add it to the list (the top of the list, actually). Darrin Darrin Porter Senior Technical Engineer United Ocean Services, L.L.C. 601 South Harbour Island Boulevard, Suite 230 Tampa, Florida 33602 (813) 209-4247 (office) (813) 744-0011 (cellular phone) (813) 242-4849 (fax) <mailto:darrin.por...@united-mar.comm> darrin.por...@united-mar.comm -----Original Message----- From: <mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com <mailto:[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:10 AM To: <mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog Hi all Something I would like to suggest as a new feature for the symbols dialog [jaws ke plus 4]. Although this dialog already contains quite a few of the most commonly used symbols, it would be very nice indeed if one could add your own special symbols to this list. My home language uses quite a few symbols which are not part of that list. Would be wonderful to be able to add them. I have no idea how easy this would be to implement!! Andre For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: <http://www.jaws-users.com/help/> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: <http://www.jaws-users.com/help/> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/