perfect, thanks
elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lee" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symbols dialog
Yes. I created a zip folder. In it is the Eloq.SBL file, and a .DOCX and a
.Doc version of the "Codes for Symbols" file. I hope this works better.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/EloqSBL.zip
Take care.
Brian Lee
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of inthane
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog
verified, I tried to retrieve it and the link is goofed, got the file, tried
adding .zip to it and got a 404 so can you zip and then reload the file?
elf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog
Brian:
When clicking on the dropbox link am I suppose to get the option to save? If
so, it just began reading the file.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog
You might consider setting a shortcut keystroke for an often used symbol if
you are using Word 2010. Freedom Scientific tech support made an Eloq.SBL
file available to replace the default one, which makes it possible for JAWS
to identify many more symbols in the Word symbols list. Once you find a
given symbol that you need to frequently use, you can set up a shortcut key
for it. This applies to the Eloquence synthesizer only.
The Eloq.SBL file is found by opening your Programs or All Programs group,
expanding the version of JAWS, expanding the Explore JAWS submenu, and
opening the Explore JAWS settings menu item. It is a good idea to use F2
when focus is on the Eloq.SBL file and add a .BAK to the end of the file
name to make it a backup. The replacement Eloq.SBL file can be downloaded
from my dropbox by using the following link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/eloq.sbl
The new Eloq.SBL file should be put in the same Shared Settings folder where
the file being replaced resides. If you want to review all the entries for
symbols under the American English group of the file, you will need to open
the file using Notepad. Once in Notepad, you can use a Find command for the
word English and you should be taken to the American English group. There
are thousands of entries in the group. Each entry gives a symbol number,
the Unicode number that represents the symbol and the name of the symbol.
You can also search for a specific symbol and quickly find its Unicode
representation. For example, the Maltese cross is represented by a U+2720,
the Star of David as a U+2721, etc. Here is a link to a file that contains
a table showing the hex and decimal values for symbols. With the document
open in Word, you can perform a Find command to search for a symbol and
check column six for its decimal representation that can be typed in by
using the Alt key and the number pad. The numbers need to be used from the
number pad. Once the new .SBL file has been placed in the Shared Settings
folder, you should be able to better read the items in the Word symbols
list.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3951772/Codes%20for%20symbols.docx
Here is how you can add a shortcut key in Word 2010 to the Maltese cross:
1. Use Alt followed by N followed by U followed by M when in Word
2010 to move into the symbols page of the symbol dialog box. Tab to the
From combo box and use up or down arrow key to select Unicode (hex). It is
important to make that selection for all symbols to show correctly. Use tab
or shift+tab to the font edit combo box and press A until you find the Arial
Unicode MS font. The symbol might be listed under a different font on
another system but I found it under the Arial Unicode MS font on my system.
Tab to the subset and press D until you find the Dingbats item. Tab into
the list of symbols. I had to use right arrow about twenty-eight times
until I found the Maltese cross. Tab to the Shortcut key button and press
spacebar. In the "Press new shortcut key" box, use a keystroke that will
apply each time you want to enter the symbol. For example, Alt+CTRL+Shift+M
could be used for the Maltese cross. Use whatever buttons you get to close
and save changes.
If you want JAWS to tell you the Unicode value instead of the ANSI value
when you use the Read Current Character command three times quickly, you
need to make the change in the Settings Center. Move focus into the JAWS
interface window. Use Alt+U to go into the utilities menu. Use down arrow
to the Settings Center menu choice and press enter key. In the search box
type in the word Graphics. Press enter key on the "graphics and symbols"
result. Expand the level and arrow down to the "speak character value in
hex" choice and press spacebar to check the item if it is not already
checked. Removing the checkmark will cause the Read Current Character to
speak the ASCII code when pressed three times quickly. The code you use
with the Alt key and numbers on the number pad is ASCII so you might want to
leave it set that way to easily obtain those codes.
If you search the "Codes for Symbols" document for the word "check" (without
the quotes), you will find an entry for a checkmark. In column six of the
row, the code is shown as 10003. If number lock is on, you can hold down
the alt key and type 10003 on the number pad to insert a checkmark. You can
also find it under the symbols dialog box in Word. Follow the same steps
shown above for adding a shortcut key to the Maltese Cross, except after
setting Dingbats in the subset of the Arial Unicode MS font, tab to the
Select a Symbol box and use right arrow key to find either a checkmark or a
heavy checkmark. Tab to the insert button and use spacebar to insert the
symbol. Otherwise, tab to the button for adding a shortcut key combination
and go through that process.
If you prefer, you can set up an auto correction entry for an often used
symbol instead of a shortcut key combination when using Word 2010. Move to
the symbols page of the symbols dialog box by using alt followed by N
followed by U followed by m. Make sure that Unicode hex is selected in the
from combo box. Find the appropriate symbol. In our examples, you would
choose the font as being Arial Unicode MS, the subset as being Dingbat, and
use the right arrow key across the "select a symbol" box to find the symbol
to use. With the appropriate symbol selected, tab to the autocorrect button
and use spacebar. In the Replace edit combo box type in a string of text
that will represent the symbol. Use the Apply, OK and Close buttons as
necessary to complete the entries. For example, you could use chkmrk1 to be
the text you type to enter the checkmark symbol. Chkmrk2 could be used to
type in the heavy checkmark symbol.
Take care.
Brian Lee
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrin Porter
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog
Here, Here! In my job, I have to type the Maltese Cross symbol all the time
and would love to add it to the list (the top of the list, actually).
Darrin
Darrin Porter
Senior Technical Engineer
United Ocean Services, L.L.C.
601 South Harbour Island Boulevard, Suite 230 Tampa, Florida 33602
(813) 209-4247 (office)
(813) 744-0011 (cellular phone)
(813) 242-4849 (fax)
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]
<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of André van
Deventer
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:10 AM
To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] suggestion for the symnbols dialog
Hi all
Something I would like to suggest as a new feature for the symbols dialog
[jaws ke plus 4].
Although this dialog already contains quite a few of the most commonly used
symbols, it would be very nice indeed if one could add your own special
symbols to this list. My home language uses quite a few symbols which are
not part of that list. Would be wonderful to be able to add them.
I have no idea how easy this would be to implement!!
Andre
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