hmmm, ok another possible problem is that when a webpage comes up, it is
auto highlighted by the jaws/mouse cursor by it (done in the scripts)
running in a "mouse click and hold" fashion from the top, to the bottom of
the page, and then the pc cursor follows it down, so where the pc cursor
says is not always accessible to jaws due to the clickable area is that is
which is shown on screen and jaws has been parked off screen and the pc
cursor may or may not be on screen, a real headache setup for something like
what your trying to do. 

a simple thing that might... help is to stop the reading, move to the spot
you desire to click with the pc cursor (I usually put it, a few lines from
the "bottom" of the viewable area) , refresh the screen with insert and
escape, then move jaws to pc, move the jaws cursor onto the item manually,
and hit the left click button. 

another item that might work is a scripter's application called hot spot
clicker, as I follow it, I believe its used to determine exactly where to
click something to activate it (mostly used in the more graphical item
screens of programs but may well work here due to the type of item that your
talking about).

a third thought, is that many of these types of items have an "unidentified
icon"  in them so are not "noticed" by the usual "named icons only" of jaws
normal settings. so it may just sit there and look at you funny (a whimsical
way of saying something like your encountering), and not be properly
recognized by jaws as "something to pay attention to", (yes I have dealt
with pages with such things on them), so temp turn your graphics to "view
all" and see if graphics wise it doesn't at least show up more correctly,
refresh the screen, and then try to jaws to it and left mouse click it. 

HTH,
inthane
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

On some web pages, there are items that can be clicked with the mouse to
bring up other pages, but there not links or graphics.  Also JAWS does not
say clickable.  For example, on the site www.amtrak.com, there is an item
that reads status.  It's not a link or graphic and dot indicated as
clickable.  You can find it by reading with the virtual cursor or with JAWS
find.  But pressing enter or space does nothing.  So I route JAWS to PC and
left click, but again nothing happens.  It appears that the only way to
activate it is to actually click it with the mouse.


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

what do you mean " Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position", under what circumstances
are you attempting this feat and for what? 

a bit more info would help.

and the location of the cursor given in that format is the screen location
of the active cursor in pixels which works for script writing and some other
unusual  things but is not much worth to a "normal day" screen reader user

if your having troubles in internet explorer, there are a few tricks, but
sometimes it just depends on what has been used to generate the page and
what it's supposedly showing you. 

inthane
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

Hi

Alt+numpad delete will give you the cursor position for the active 
Alt+cursor
for all 3 cursor types, PC, JAWS and invisible.  When the virtual cursor is
active, those keys will give you a position, but I don't know what the
position represents.  It may be the position in the virtual buffer, but of
what use is that?  Even with reading stopped, I still can't route the JAWS
cursor anywhere near the correct screen position.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of northstar1...@okiespirit.net
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 14 Key To Announce The Screen Location

try alt+numpad delete while the jaws cursor is active.
Legend has it that on Friday 5/17/2013 04:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT
SERVICES) said:
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>Hi friends,
>
>can anyone remember the JAWS key that announces the co-ordinates of the 
>JAWS cursor on the screen please, I just can't remember it for some odd 
>reason.
>
>Many thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
>Ferrin
>Sent: 17 May 2013 09:30
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
>Jaws14.0.3005 Update
>
>If I might jump in here my method of choice is to download the entire 
>package and install it that way. I think the update feature might have 
>failed on me once although my memory is not clear about that at such an 
>un-godly hour.
>
>I am sure that downloading the entire package has never failed on me, 
>besides then you have it locally in case of a future need.
>David Ferrin
>A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
>from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie 
>Parrett
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:25 PM
>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest
>Jaws14.0.3005 Update
>
>Mike, is it better to update directly from the link in your email or do 
>it from the update section in JAWS 14?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JAWS-Users-List
>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:01 PM
>To: Jaws-Users List
>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Direct Download Links For Latest Jaws14.0.3005 
>Update
>
>Hi All,
>
>The download links for both 32 & 64 bit systems are below:
>
>32 Bit systems:
>
>http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-32bit.exe
>
>64 Bit systems:
>
>http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J14.0.3005-64bit.exe
>
>HTH
>Take care.
>Mike
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