Let us return to more on topic discussions please gentlemen. We have let this go on for a bit to be nice, but it is time to shut it down.
David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Pasco Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC In High School I was allowed to work on an IBM 1130. Though it had an input console, I was only allowed to use the punch card reader to enter Fortran programs. It was interesting, but I'll take todays machines any day. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Vernaleken Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 6:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC I fondly look back at those days. I also still have my Green and Yellow cards. My first job was working on a 360/30 and I think it had 30K of memory. John -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike O'Brien Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC Hi I think you are revealing your age mentioning the green card. The green card was for the IBM 360. The 370 had a yellow card. I believe I still have both of those. I agree that IBM assembler was the most straight forward language, since you had to know what the computer really does. My first computer job was translating Autocoder programs to Cobol. They gave us a 3 day course in Autocoder and a 7 day class in cobol and then turned us lose, neither of which I knew before that. But now I'm showing my age. too -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Vernaleken Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 07:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC John You bring back memories when you mentioned Assembler. Those were the days you were really a programmer and had to deal with Core Dumps and your handy Assembler Green Card. Did you ever hear of AutoCoder, I am really dating myself. John (Started my career as an Assembler programmer) -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John M. Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC Hi Scott, It just so happens that for the past several weeks, I have been working with Liberty Basic. It is a full featured Basic compiler and it has been fully Jaws accessible so far. I am Using Win 7 64-bit with Jaws 13. According to the website, it will also work with Win 8. I am using the demo version, which means that I cannot produce a standalone .exe program and there are also nag screens when you exit the program. The program has extensive help and example programs. I have done extensive programming over the years in 370/Assembler, Cobol, Fortran, RPG, PL/1 and QuickBasic. Out of all of those languages, my all-time favorites are Assembler, RPG and QuickBasic (Fortran has many similarities to Basic). I am writing a little daily reminder program for myself, because I have never been completely satisfied with the many reminder programs which I have tested over the years. The program is almost complete and I have really been enjoying the process of learning Liberty Basic. I told my wife that writing code again is very relaxing for me. Of course, if I was forced to do it for 40 hours a week, that would probably be a different story. The link to Liberty Basic is: http://www.libertybasic.com The company also publishes a completely free Basic compiler called Just Basic. I know that it has limitations over the full version of the product and I have not tested it with Jaws, though I would assume that the accessibility should be similar. The link to Just Basic is: http://www.justbasic.com If you decide to get into Liberty Basic, contact me off-list and we can chat. Oh yes, the cost of Liberty Basic is $60. If you send them an email and tell them where you heard about the product, they will send you a link to receive a $10 discount. Good luck, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Duck" <[email protected]> To: "Jaws List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Programming in old BASIC > Hello, > > Is there a basic interpreter that will run under Windows 8 and will > work with JAWS? Any flavor of basic will do. I'm talking about the > old text based BASIC from the 1970s and 1980s like Integer BASIC, > Applesoft Basic, QBASIC, CBM BASIC. I had a lot of fun with it back > then and thought I would like to play around with it again. > > Thanks, > > Scott Duck > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
