Hi Rich,

I don't know but, it wouldn't hurt if you try it & let the list know if it 
does.  I don't use WLM so, I can't try it myself.  If you install it, & 
don't like it, you can remove it from the control panel / programs & 
features in Win7 or, in control panel / add remove programs in XP.  It's a 
very small program / app & doesn't take much time to install / uninstall.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Richard Hamel
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Dropdown grids in Word 2010


Would this  program work in WLM?

Rich

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Dropdown grids in Word 2010

Hi Jim,

I, like you, don't care for the ribbons & I don't use them enough to really
get familiar with them or the shortcut keystrokes but, I may have something
for you.  I found this great little program / app called, UBit, that makes
the ribbons work kind of like the older menues from older versions of
Office.  Go to the link below:

http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Once you're on the website press the letter, H, to navigate by heading &
you'll land on:

UBitMenu for Office 2007, 2010 and 2013 Shortcuts

Now, arrow down to:

. Download English UBitMenu

Click on the link  to get the download.  I'll put the steps for Office 2010
below.

for private use (free for private use). This setup will work with Office
2007, 2010 and 2013.
Close all open Office programs before installing!

Office 2010 Steps:
Personally, before using the Ubit program I turn a couple of things off in
Jaws / Options/ Basics to cut down on excess Jaws chatter.  They are:

Tutor Message, Turn off Menu and Control Help

Access Key, set to off.


After installing the UBit program do the following to access the menues:
MS Word:

1. Press the, Alt key, to open the menu bar.
2. Right arrow 2 times to the, Menu tab.
3. Now you can tab from menu to menu.  When you are on the menu you want
you'll hear, File sub-menu, for example, so, press enter to
open the dropdown list & you can down or up arrow through the list of
options.
4. When you are on the menu you want press enter or if you hear an option
/ button, press the spacebar to open.

Note:  That anything new to 2007 or later shows up at the bottom of
the appropriate menu, so you don't lose anything.


Excel:

1. Press the, Alt key, to open the menu bar.
2. Right arrow 2 times to the, Menu tab.
3. Now you can tab from menu to menu.  When you are on the menu you want
you'll hear, File button dropdown, for example so, press the spacebar to
open the dropdown list & you can down or up arrow through the list of
options.
4. When you are on the option you want press enter or if you hear an option
/ button, press the spacebar to open.

Power Point:

1. Press the, Alt key, to open the menu bar.
2. Right arrow 2 times to the, Menu tab.
3. Now you can tab from menu to menu.  When you are on the menu you want
you'll hear, File button dropdown, for example so, press the spacebar to
open the dropdown list & you can down or up arrow through the list of
options.
4. When you are on the option you want press enter or if you hear an option
/ button, press the spacebar to open.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jim Pursley
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Dropdown grids in Word 2010


I am finding the recent ribbon menu discussions helpful as I struggle to
transition from rank ribbon neophyte to journeyman.  I'm using win7, 64
bit.  When I land on a dropdown grid in an element on a lower ribbon I
attempt to use the arrow keys as instructed and nothing happens.  None
of the other navigational techniques I know work either - tab, etc.  I
enabled the JAWS ribbon menu for ease of access.  Any ideas how to
unlock the dropdown grid's secrets?

More generally..I see where not using the JAWS ribbon menu feature can
be advantageous to one who can first letter navigate.  Is the ribbon
menu feature just the equivalent of training wheels? This said, I use
Word only for drafts and won't likely need more than an occasional
layout and print color change. Bottom line, I don't like extensive
tabbing or arrowing so maybe going cold turkey to the pure ribbon view
may work for me.  May I have a quick intro to using ribbons without the
virtual ribbon menu feature?
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