Hola Trish & Jorge, Below are some notes that explain the differences between copying with full content versus on screen highlight:
From: Andrew Head Hi all, I have an online document I wish to copy to Microsoft word to have so I've got it even when my internet temporarily stops working. I firstly copied it into a blank document using the jaws option copy full text from virtual cursor. The document turned out to be 88 pages. I then decided to try copying it using on screen highlight, and the document turned out to be 34 pages, although formatting wasn't there. Just wondering if anyone can please tell me why the document was shorter when the text is copied using on screen highlight? Is all the info still there? Kind regards, >From Andrew From: Brian Lee Hello Andrew, All the information should be included whether you copy text using "select and copy from virtual cursor" or "select and copy full content using on screen highlight." When JAWS presents information in a virtual window, pieces of information that might actually appear next to each other on the screen can be presented as being on separate lines. This makes it easier to hear and interpret in many cases. Let's say that you have a table of information that consists of five columns and twenty-five rows. In the virtual buffer, each cell of information might be shown on a separate line. With five columns across and twenty-five rows, this would mean that you have one hundred and twenty-five lines of information. The same table actually appears on the screen with five columns across and twenty-five rows vertically, meaning that only twenty-five lines are used when the information is presented as it appears on the screen. Of course, it isn't always exact because you might have cells that wrap, empty cells and so on that will not make the total of lines used the exact result of number of columns times number of rows. However, in the example, if each cell of information can fit on a single line then with five columns and twenty-five rows you would end up with one hundred and twenty-five lines of information. When you copy the information from virtual cursor, it is copied as it is presented, which in the example would be as one hundred and twenty-five lines of information. When you copy the information as shown on screen, it is copied as twenty-five lines. When you paste the copied information from the clipboard into a document, Windows will paste it as it was copied. Take care. Brian Lee From: Flor Lynch All the necessary info is still there. Copying from virtual cursor also includes JAWS verbosity comments like 'LIST OF 10 ITEMS', or 'LIST END' that are not in the real content. Flor From: Annette Carr My initial guess is that all of your text is there. The only way to be 100% sure about this is to compare the 2 documents. Since you said that the shorter document does not include formatting, I think this is the reason for it being less than the 88 page document. Formatting controls all types of things about a document. If the original document used a larger font such as 14 point or 24 point for all or some of the text, the unformatted text could be all in a 10 point font. Over 88 pages of text, this smaller font would take up significantly less space. If the original formatting included blank pages or other formatting that gave the original document a lot of white space, this would be omitted from the unformatted document, again shortening the overall length of the document. If there are any pages in the original document that contain only a few lines of text followed by a formatting instruction to force the next piece of information to the next page, this would be removed from the short document and the text from the next page would be pulled on to the page with the few lines of text. There are many other formatting aspects that can effect the final length of a document. hTH, Annette Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. ----- Original Message ----- From: TheHangMan To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] selecting Text from a web page Trish, Thanks for that nice command key. I was not familiar with it only the insert + V in outlook. Jorge -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] selecting Text from a web page I would like to comment here after reading the original person's problem. I too was having this same issue, selecting and copy to clipboard and paste and it wasn't there.. this is how I fixed it. Open IE, press Insert Key and V, then go to virtual cursor and make sure that, copy from vertual cursor is selected, tab to ok to save changes. Now, I can copy anything and paste it and it's there. ----- Original Message ----- From: TheHangMan To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] selecting Text from a web page Thanks Roberta, I have to try that method, All the other ones are in my brain... Jorge -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roberta Nevels Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] selecting Text from a web page You can also 1. put your focus in front of where you want to copy and press control windows k and this will put a temporary place marker 2. then go to the end of where you want to copy and do a insert space bar and press m 3. then do a control c to copy it to your clipboard 4. then go to where you want to put it and do a control v to paste it, remember you must arrow up to see what you copied. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] selecting Text from a web page To copy text do the following. 1. Put your focus just in front of what you want to copy. Then hold down ctl+shift then hit the right arrow key. Every time you hit the right ctl+arrow key while holding down the ctl+shift key jaws will announce what word you have selected. So right arrow until you have everything selected that you want to copy. 2. Then hold down the ctl key then hit the C key to copy. You should then hear jaws say copied. 3. Then go to the place where you want to copy the text and put the focus there. Then hold down the ctl key and hit the V key to paste the text. Let me know it that works for you. There are more keys you can use to select more text like a whole line or whole page. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of anna vimini Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [JAWS-Users] selecting Text from a web page I am trying to select text from a web page and every time I select it and then copy it to the clipboard when I go and paste it into my document nothing shows up. I even tried turning carrot browsing on and still nothing. could someone please tell me how to do it? I am using internet explorer 10 and windows 8.0 and jaws 15 latest. thanks in advance For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
