I also agree to wait to down load windows 10 until next spring as it will
give time to fix any problems and Jaws to be able to work the best it can
Louise and Princess Kiara 


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: July 13, 2015 3:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS

I agree with you. I am planning to wait until most of the bugs are fix and
jaws 17 is out for several months. I am thinking of downloading 10 next
spring and getting jaws at the same time.

-----Original Message-----
From: John M.
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS

John,
I completely agree with you. I have always recommended to my clients (both
sighted and blind) that they wait at least until service pack one is
released for any new operating system or major software package. It blows me
away how many people want to jump right in to a new operating system (be it
Microsoft or Apple) on the first day that it is released. And then for
months, they bombard the lists with complaints about things not working as
they expected. As I have said for more years than I care to mention, if it
is doing the job that needs to be done, leave it alone.
That is why I am still using Jaws 14 on my main desktop, even though I have
the SMA to upgrade it. I did not like some of the issues I found with Jaws
15 and 16, and 14 is working just fine for me.
Also, there are plenty of high-end Windows 7 laptops and desktops available
from sources such as NewEgg and eBay, that can be purchased for a fraction
of their original price. I recently purchased two beautiful Lenovo
Thinkpads, for about 15% of what they sold for new just three years ago.

John M.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Justice" <[email protected]>
To: "Jaws Users E-mail List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 4:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS


> The opinions expressed in this document are my own and do not necessarily
> reflect those of Freedom Scientific or the list management.
>
>
>
> After reading The FS-Cast  podcast and studying other informatory 
> resources,
> I have reached the conclusion that Windows 10, at least in its original
> form, is not a good choice for those who use screen readers.  Please note.
> Windows 10 is still a work in progress.  Freedom Scientific will certainly
> keep tabs on things as they develop and make the necessary changes.
>
>
>
> THE EDGE WEB BROWSER:
>
> Microsoft has already made massive changes in this new web browser and 
> they
> admit that it is not as good as was hoped.  The software was designed like
> Firefox and Google Chrome but it doesn't function nearly as well as either
> of those programs.  Unfortunately, it does not work well at all with 
> screen
> readers.  The Windows 10, scheduled for a release on July 29, is 
> definitely
> not a comfortable fit for Jaws.
>
>
>
> THE NEW WINDOWS 10 CONFIGURATION:
>
> Microsoft has heard us and is trying to bring back the older 
> configurations
> like Windows XP and Windows 7. According to an article published by
> Microsoft, their attempt to design a Start menu which worked well with 
> smart
> phones and IPads, resulted in numerous complaints from PC users.  The
> version of Windows 10 scheduled for release can give you a taste of what 
> is
> coming but that too is currently in a fluid state.  I asked a Microsoft
> representative why they are sending out a product which is still imperfect
> or incomplete.  His response was, "Look, we're going to hit most of our
> customers at home with this new software.  Some will buy it because it is
> new.  Our free upgrade will add many more customers to our list.  What 
> we're
> trying to do is get away from 8.1.  We have had so many problems with that
> version of Windows.  We almost had to do this to keep from losing too many
> retail customers to the Apple software.  People like you  and other
> customers who use screen readers or magnification are a tiny minority when
> compared to the rest of our customer base.  That doesn't mean we won't 
> work
> to fix these issues but we won't be able to do it right away."
>
> I asked him how we should proceed in the meantime.  His suggestion was to
> maintain our current versions of Windows or, ideally, load Windows 10 but
> change the Default browser to Internet Explorer, still available in this 
> new
> release.
>
>
>
> Windows 10 is currently being tested by Freedom Scientific and this latest
> Jaws update has indeed addressed some of the problems.  However, many 
> issues
> still exist.  To quote Jonathan Mosen, "If you enjoy experimenting with
> software and trying to find ways to make it work, Windows 10 is going to
> work for you."   For those of us who use our computers to do work or reach
> out to other people throughout the world, the last thing we need is a 
> system
> which might or might not work in any given situation.
>
>
>
>
>
> John and linda justice
>
> Personal e-mail: [email protected]
>
>
>
>
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