Hi. What IE Installer. I've seen it on this list but don't know what it is.
Cheers! Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Arnold <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 14 July 2015 11:20 am Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS > > > Just about my plan. I think I am going to get IE loaded and Outlook. This > list has been a life saver to help me get some kind of understanding about > what I am facing and things to do about it - oh yes, Adobe, PDF and > Installer. I might have thought of Adobe and PDF, but for this list, I would > not have known about Installer, and I want to read my cousin's book, which > are available online. So I have compiled a list, which I adjust from time to > time. Then after the first of the year, I'll get JAWS 17, then trot myself > to the local computer builder, printed list in hand (punch sheet, as it > were), and have a little talk to see what we can do. I can always get a > computer from another supplier, if I can't get the help here that it appears > that I will get. One thing favorable is what my husband knows, and he'll be > with me, but thinks I need to get professionals to set things up to make > sure that JAWS is king, even though he did load JAWS on this rebuilt one, > which has done fine. > > Remember, life is what you make it, > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Holger Fiallo" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:17 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS > > > >I agree with you. I am planning to wait until most of the bugs are fix and > >jaws 17 is out for several months. I am thinking of downloading 10 next > >spring and getting jaws at the same time. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John M. > > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:05 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS > > > > John, > > I completely agree with you. I have always recommended to my clients (both > > sighted and blind) that they wait at least until service pack one is > > released for any new operating system or major software package. It blows > > me > > away how many people want to jump right in to a new operating system (be > > it > > Microsoft or Apple) on the first day that it is released. And then for > > months, they bombard the lists with complaints about things not working as > > they expected. As I have said for more years than I care to mention, if it > > is doing the job that needs to be done, leave it alone. > > That is why I am still using Jaws 14 on my main desktop, even though I > > have > > the SMA to upgrade it. I did not like some of the issues I found with Jaws > > 15 and 16, and 14 is working just fine for me. > > Also, there are plenty of high-end Windows 7 laptops and desktops > > available > > from sources such as NewEgg and eBay, that can be purchased for a fraction > > of their original price. I recently purchased two beautiful Lenovo > > Thinkpads, for about 15% of what they sold for new just three years ago. > > > > John M. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Justice" <[email protected]> > > To: "Jaws Users E-mail List" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 4:42 PM > > Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, OBSERVATIONS AND ANALYSIS > > > > > >> The opinions expressed in this document are my own and do not necessarily > >> reflect those of Freedom Scientific or the list management. > >> > >> > >> > >> After reading The FS-Cast podcast and studying other informatory > >> resources, > >> I have reached the conclusion that Windows 10, at least in its original > >> form, is not a good choice for those who use screen readers. Please > >> note. > >> Windows 10 is still a work in progress. Freedom Scientific will > >> certainly > >> keep tabs on things as they develop and make the necessary changes. > >> > >> > >> > >> THE EDGE WEB BROWSER: > >> > >> Microsoft has already made massive changes in this new web browser and > >> they > >> admit that it is not as good as was hoped. The software was designed > >> like > >> Firefox and Google Chrome but it doesn't function nearly as well as > >> either > >> of those programs. Unfortunately, it does not work well at all with > >> screen > >> readers. The Windows 10, scheduled for a release on July 29, is > >> definitely > >> not a comfortable fit for Jaws. > >> > >> > >> > >> THE NEW WINDOWS 10 CONFIGURATION: > >> > >> Microsoft has heard us and is trying to bring back the older > >> configurations > >> like Windows XP and Windows 7. According to an article published by > >> Microsoft, their attempt to design a Start menu which worked well with > >> smart > >> phones and IPCbi'ads, resulted in numerous complaints from PC users. The > >> version of Windows 10 scheduled for release can give you a taste of what > >> is > >> coming but that too is currently in a fluid state. I asked a Microsoft > >> representative why they are sending out a product which is still > >> imperfect > >> or incomplete. His response was, "Look, we're going to hit most of our > >> customers at home with this new software. Some will buy it because it is > >> new. Our free upgrade will add many more customers to our list. What > >> we're > >> trying to do is get away from 8.1. We have had so many problems with > >> that > >> version of Windows. We almost had to do this to keep from losing too > >> many > >> retail customers to the Apple software. People like you and other > >> customers who use screen readers or magnification are a tiny minority > >> when > >> compared to the rest of our customer base. That doesn't mean we won't > >> work > >> to fix these issues but we won't be able to do it right away." > >> > >> I asked him how we should proceed in the meantime. His suggestion was to > >> maintain our current versions of Windows or, ideally, load Windows 10 but > >> change the Default browser to Internet Explorer, still available in this > >> new > >> release. > >> > >> > >> > >> Windows 10 is currently being tested by Freedom Scientific and this > >> latest > >> Jaws update has indeed addressed some of the problems. However, many > >> issues > >> still exist. To quote Jonathan Mosen, "If you enjoy experimenting with > >> software and trying to find ways to make it work, Windows 10 is going to > >> work for you." For those of us who use our computers to do work or > >> reach > >> out to other people throughout the world, the last thing we need is a > >> system > >> which might or might not work in any given situation. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> John and linda justice > >> @> @>@> ,p]sonal ;e-mail3 [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >> > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10221 - Release Date: 07/13/15 > > > > > > > > Holger Fiallo > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
