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-----Original Message----- From: George Martinez
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 10:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far

Hi David,
I have had several sad incidents with IE-11 lately and I am ready to make Chrome my default browser. I cannot find your Chrome podcast. Will you please send it to me again either on or off list.
Thanks,
George


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far

Hi Jim,
Everything you reported is happening to me exactly. You have made me feel so
much better, because I thought I had messed things up in my settings. I
thought that it was the up date, but now, you have confirmed that is indeed
the case. Guys, what Jim said is totally true for me. You should indeed
still land on the artist list, but I have to do the same playing around with
the up and down arrow to get on the artist I want. I know this is
irritating, because I love to fly down the list of my artists to decide what
I want to play. However, like Jim said, we will love iTunes even more when
FS does its thing. We must all remember that we blind people are the
minority in this world, and the sighted are the ones technology is being
made for. The only thing we can do as a minority is to be patient, more
patient, and then thankful for what we do have as a minority. The fact that
we can use the Windows OS at all is a mircle that the blind were very scared
about before Ted Hentor and other positive blind people programmed JAWS to
interact with Windows. We should try not to complane, but to make these set
backs an exciting moment to make us even more patient and stronger. We
should speak up to tech companies about accessibility, but with the attitude
of educating them, because we are the minority who does need to speak up. We
must speak up in a positive and loving way, though, and quit complaining.
Thanks a lot, Jim for working with iTunes to give us this report. I have
worked with it for hours. I stayed up all night trying to figure out why it
is acting the way it does and to try to find work arounds. That is what we
must do. We have to play with software with total patience and try to figure
out a way we can use it instead of taking so much energy away from us to
complain. We will always have to work harder to have what we want in this
world, because we are a very small minority of the entire population. Take
care all, and do not give up on iTunes, because it is the best way I have
been able to organize my music, pod casts, and on and on. Let us give thanks
that we can use it at all. Have a great one, guys.

-----Originalessage----- From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far

Agree. I'm sticking to the devil I know, rather than the one I don't.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far


Don't hold your breath!  Then again, why do we as customers to Apple
products always have to wait weeks to months for updates to make something
work that should work immediately!  I don't end up where you do when iTunes
opens either.


Rose Combs
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far

Hi again Jaws Users group, let me start off with the positive review of
iTunes 12.4.

The newly designed iTunes store is awesome, the page's load very fast, no
waiting or hesitation, same when you press the backspace key to go back to
the previous page, works great.  The only thing that needs to be fixed by
Freedom Scientific is to make Jaws see the visited links.  I was able to buy
several albums with no issues, they downloaded a lot faster as well. So I
give iTunes an A-minus for the store, would have been an A+, if Jaws
announced the visited links.

Now when you first open iTunes, for example on my computer, iTunes opens to
the Artists list.

As I use the down arrow key, Jaws reads what seems to be some kind of a code
before the name of the artist, Jaws reads: "Description L1."

As I down arrow through the list of artist, sometimes I must press the down
arrow two times and then up arrow one time, and then down arrow again to
show the next artist, or when I use first letter navigation, I must do the
same thing to get Jaws to read the next artist, so they get a C-minus.

As you press the F6 key to jump across the interface, they have changed
things as well.  I personally think when Freedom Scientific makes the
necessary changes to Jaws for the new iTunes interface, I think we will like
it much better than any previous version of iTunes.

I am still playing around with iTunes 12.4; I am going to leave it on my
computer.  I am looking forward to the corrections from Freedom Scientific
to the Jaws 17 program that will allow us to take advantage of this new
interface.



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