Tony,

Interesting idea using a virtual machine.  I wonder if we could even run
R83 on a virtual box.  Oh well, I guess I don't really care on that one
since I hope that I don't run into a R83 box any time soon.  That just
jinxed it for me, didn't it?!?!

Dick

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Tony Gravagno <[email protected]>wrote:

> Mike - he doesn’t have serial ports and you think he’d have a USB port?  J
> ****
>
> A serial port is just a ISA/PCI card, easy to find in most junk shops
> these days for a couple bucks. I have a box full of them.****
>
> ** **
>
> From there Dave needs a properly pinned serial cable so that he can reach
> out from one PC with AccuTerm into the R83 box.  Dave, you might need a
> cross-over adapter for this to swap pins 2/3.  And of course you need to
> work through whether you’re using a 25pin or 9pin serial adapter on both
> ends. Oh boy, get out those crimpers and the magnifying glasses…  (Better
> you than me, bud. ;)  )****
>
> ** **
>
> Another alternative (and much faster though more costly) is to put a NIC
> in the R83 box and then negotiate a one-time / week-long license with
> EasyCo for PicLan (http://piclan.com/).  Then you can telnet into R83 and
> the world becomes a much better place – for this week anyway.****
>
> ** **
>
> Another option that I have never tried – load R83 into a virtual machine
> (free VMware Player).  You might then be able to somehow connect
> “virtually”  through the serial port, or use PicLan as above.  The good
> news here is – No Hardware!  The bad news – you may be on your own in
> trying to get this to work and there are no guarantees that it will.
> You’ll need to look around the VMware forums for anyone trying to make use
> of virtual serial ports.****
>
> ** **
>
> Completely off-topic for this thread and for jBase, but regarding
> multiboot with Windows and Linux:****
>
> You _*can*_ install Linux first, then Windows. But you need to go back
> and re-install GRUB (or other) to the MBR as the bootloader afterward so
> that you can get a selection when you boot.  As mentioned earlier, I’ve
> been using Partition Commander for more versatility (and I have something
> like 8 partitions that I can boot from on one of my boxes).  YMMV****
>
> ** **
>
> HTH****
>
> T****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* mike ryder****
>
> ** **
>
> Dave,
>
> You are lucky that you have anything of R83 left!
>
> Windows does not acknowledge that there can be any other operating system
> in th world. If you want to install a second OS (even wen installing Linux)
> you have to load winblows first.
>
> For serial ports, you can buy a USB-serial adaptor (try maplin)
>
> Mike
>
> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:51:09 AM UTC, Dave Grenfell wrote:****
>
> Tony:
>
> I'm back, all browned up and ready to begin.  Hit my first snag.  The
> computer I was going to use for xp/jbase has no serial ports, so will have
> to look for either an older box, or a serial port card. When I get this put
> together, I will begin the transfer process.
>
> As an aside, I put R83 on an old Pentium 233 box, and it worked
> perfectly.  I then installed windows 2000 on the other half of the hard
> drive, and now seems the only way I can boot PICK is to use the floppy to
> execute the monitor.  I guess the multiple boot thing doesn't work because
> windows doesn't recognize the pick partition as valid.
>
> I will post progress reports.
>
> Dave. ****
>
> ** **
>
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