Hi Tony,

I'd really like to get the latest version of SAVE.RESTORE.AT FOSS. I didn't mean to imply that T-DUMP was the way to go for everyone - sorry I wasn't clear. If your utility can make the process easier and more reliable than floppies, I'm all for it. Time isn't really an issue as I can just let it run while I'm doing other things. Floppies could still be a fall-back.

Thanks,
Charlie

On 04-12-2012 8:29 PM, Tony Gravagno wrote:

Correction...  T-dump is the way for _Dave_ to go. Respectfully, he had many issues in using the freeware which had nothing to do with that software itself, though in fairness he helped to improve the code and packaging as well. Someone else would have a different experience and therefore their conclusions may be different.

 

Dave is correct that moving data across the wire can take a long time. For this reason it's fault-tolerant and can continued in the save and restore wherever it left off. It was intended to be used in an environment where it was otherwise impossible to get a save, not in an environment where the time to get a save was inconvenient. Dave has been lucky to have options that others may not have.

 

T-Dump is viable if you have a floppy drive and time to sit there with floppies. I wrote the freeware for a site that required over 100 floppies for a single save, and after days of trying they couldn't get a single good restore. I've seen that scenario play out many times. For some sites the hardware is so crippled that the floppy drive isn't even active. With the software solution, the save/restore process can also be done remotely, not an option with floppies.

 

It's unfortunate that Dave was unable to use the software successfully, but that experience should not be used as a guide for someone else who is facing a similar challenge.

 

I still welcome a contribution to the SAVE.RESTORE.AT FOSS utility for moving data to and from jBase. I'll be happy to provide the latest version and guidance to anyone interested. It would be nice for the utility to be ready for a jBase user whenever they need it, rather than struggling with customizations when they're attending to other emergencies.

 

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From: Charlie Noah

Thanks for the update. It looks like T-DUMP is the way to go. I haven't had a chance to play with it any more since we last corresponded. I'll probably get #1 son to bring my old AP machine downstairs from my old office, since I can't climb the stairs very well anymore. Sure glad I bought an external floppy for my XP machine.

David Grenfell wrote: 
You were wanting me to report back on my progress.  So here goes.  I have had a lot of support from Tony, but because I was not familiar with Accuterm, I came accross as a bit of a dummy.  I am however, getting familiar with accuterm.
 
Here are my actual results.  I have Accuterm loaded on my XP-PRO/JBASE systerm with a serial connection into my R83 box.  With some guidance from Peter at Accuterm, I did a file transfer from R83 to a DOS intermediate file on my XP BOX, because this apparently is the fastest way to get data over.  My baud rate is 19200.  I had an approximately 21mb file with 67435 items .  The transfer took just over 7 hours.  I did the same transfer with T-DUMP/T-LOAD in just under an hour.  So, don't throw out your floppies. I could have done it quicker, but I was only using one floppy, and sat there while the process was running.
 
I have to use conversion routines on these files to upgrade them to my newer software configurations.  Once I have all the conversion programs in place, I will dump my clients final data to my developement box and upgrade them.  There are many files, as you know in an accounting system, and a lot of them need conversions done, so I can't be held up by slow transfers, because my client cannot afford to be without his computer system for a long period of time.  So T-dumps it will be, since this still seems to be the fastest way for me.
 

 

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