Hi All,

another 2 cents: PuTTY.
Free, open source code.

Cheers
VK


On Friday, 29 April 2016 04:30:42 UTC+2, Charlie Noah wrote:

> There are people out there still using basic telnet for business purposes? 
> I have always respected Jim's opinions, and he is right - SecureCRT is the 
> best TE all around. I used SecureCRT for years, and even though I've been 
> retired for a while, I still get their updates, and they are staying 
> current with all the security threats popping up.
>
> Just my 2ยข worth,
> Charlie
>
> On 04-28-2016 9:09 PM, Jim Idle wrote:
>
> Yes - the USE_WIN32_CONSOLE_SHORTCUT is likely the culprit. In order to 
> intercept console IO, there was some deep dark voodoo done in the telnet 
> service. If something uses nasty hacks like that to perform IO, then all 
> bets are off. 
>
> I suggest taking a look at moving to SSH, despite the obvious problem of 
> TE upgrades. I use SecureCRT and it is easily the best TE out there. The 
> main reason is security, which I currently work in. Telnet has a lot of 
> issues in this regard and a lot of new ways into systems have been 
> discovered since that code was written. IF you are sure that your 
> environment is secure, then perhaps you can wing it for a while, but 
> I would give it serious consideration.
>
> Jim
>
> PS: Hello Mark
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Tuber <[email protected] <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 8:24:54 PM UTC-7, Jim Idle wrote: 
>>>
>>> It's very likely that subversion is using special code to display the 
>>> message and probably to read the password.  
>>> The answer might be that you cannot do that. That telnet code is very 
>>> old now, you may be better trying an SSH server.
>>> However, you could store the SVN password so it does not prompt, or, as 
>>> the enter key works, maybe just type the password and see what happens. 
>>> Perhaps it is trying to use a Windows popup?
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>> I looked at the subversion code last night and it's a rats nest;  it uses 
>> this Apache Portable Runtime that I haven't been able to untangle.  If 
>> anyone wants to have a go I've traced it down to svn_cmdline_fputs: 
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/trunk/subversion/libsvn_subr/cmdline.c?view=markup#l382
>> Of particular interest is the USE_WIN32_CONSOLE_SHORTCUT define.
>>
>> It's not using a windows popup:  If you enter the password it accepts it 
>> and stores it in the svn configuration directory.
>> The problem I was trying to solve was when a new developer attempts to 
>> use my code that "PERFORM"s subversion and it hangs for no visible reason.  
>> What I figured out is to use cmd /c svn ci blah blah 0>&1
>> When subversion runs it figures out that there will be no stdin coming, 
>> and instead of prompting for the password and invisibly hanging, it prints 
>> out an error message and continues.  If the password was already stored it 
>> does its thing.
>>
>> The SSH server is a good idea, but more than I want to bite off at this 
>> time.  (That means upgrading all our terminal emulators, configuring them 
>> all, etc)
>>
>> Mark: F2 does not work, neither does running CMD, or doing it through a 
>> PERFORM.  I'm sure now that it's subversion not playing nicely with the 
>> telnetd, not the shell. 
>>
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