So an open question for all: what do you especially like about your
favorite terminal emulator?
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, VK wrote:
Hi All,
another 2 cents: PuTTY.
Free, open source code.
Cheers
VK
On Friday, 29 April 2016 04:30:42 UTC+2, Charlie Noah wrote:
There are people out there still using basic telnet for business
purposes? I have always respected Jim's opinions, and he is
right - SecureCRT is the best TE all around. I used SecureCRT
for years, and even though I've been retired for a while, I
still get their updates, and they are staying current with all
the security threats popping up.
Just my 2¢ worth,
Charlie
On 04-28-2016 9:09 PM, Jim Idle wrote:
Yes - the USE_WIN32_CONSOLE_SHORTCUT
is likely the culprit. In order to intercept console IO,
there was some deep dark voodoo done in the telnet
service. If something uses nasty hacks like that to
perform IO, then all bets are off.
I suggest taking a look at moving to SSH, despite the obvious
problem of TE upgrades. I use SecureCRT and it is easily the
best TE out there. The main reason is security, which I
currently work in. Telnet has a lot of issues in this regard and
a lot of new ways into systems have been discovered since that
code was written. IF you are sure that your environment is
secure, then perhaps you can wing it for a while, but
I would give it serious consideration.
Jim
PS: Hello Mark
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:35 AM, Tuber <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 8:24:54 PM UTC-7,
Jim Idle wrote:
It's very likely that subversion is
using special code to display the
message and probably to read the
password. The answer might be that you
cannot do that. That telnet code is very
old now, you may be better trying an SSH
server.
However, you could store the SVN password so it does
not prompt, or, as the enter key works, maybe just
type the password and see what happens. Perhaps it
is trying to use a Windows popup?
Jim
I looked at the subversion code last night and it's a rats
nest; it uses this Apache Portable Runtime that I haven't
been able to untangle. If anyone wants to have a go I've
traced it down to
svn_cmdline_fputs:http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/trunk/subversion/libsvn_subr/cmdlin
e.c?view=markup#l382
Of particular interest is the USE_WIN32_CONSOLE_SHORTCUT
define.
It's not using a windows popup: If you enter the password
it accepts it and stores it in the svn configuration
directory.
The problem I was trying to solve was when a new developer
attempts to use my code that "PERFORM"s subversion and it
hangs for no visible reason. What I figured out is to use
cmd /c svn ci blah blah 0>&1
When subversion runs it figures out that there will be no
stdin coming, and instead of prompting for the password
and invisibly hanging, it prints out an error message and
continues. If the password was already stored it does its
thing.
The SSH server is a good idea, but more than I want to
bite off at this time. (That means upgrading all our
terminal emulators, configuring them all, etc)
Mark: F2 does not work, neither does running CMD, or doing
it through a PERFORM. I'm sure now that it's subversion
not playing nicely with the telnetd, not the shell.
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