Rickard I will repeat the message:

to have JAWS (!) implement the ejbCreate and ejbPostCreate calls is silly.

If you want to do it in CMPPersistenceManager or BMPPersistenceManager, that
is fine and then we propagate the MetaData knowledge, but NOT JAWS!!!!!!

(Here you fuck up the plugin architecture).

marc


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rickard �berg
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:22 AM
> To: jBoss Developer
> Subject: Re: [jBoss-Dev] setEJBObject
>
>
> Hi!
>
> marc fleury wrote:
> > Ok first of all in the createEntity method that I factored there was no
> > distinction CMP/BMP that i saw, it is normal...
>
> Of course, since JAWS does CMP. If it had done both there would have
> been a distinction.
>
> > the reason is simple you
> > still havent' done BMP :)
>
> Incorrect. There is a partial BMPPersistenceManager that does indeed
> handle createEntity differently.
>
> > but I take you are saying do as I say not as I
> > do:)
>
> I am saying "do as I say and do as I do". Pay attention Marc.
>
> > second even if there was one.
>
> (.. which there is)
>
> > I repeat that not exposing the "boolean
> > isCMP" from the metadata is a bit of a design poopoo
>
> It is exposed. Getting the metadata is trivial, both from the PM and the
> container itself. The reason was to delegate implementation semantics to
> the plugins, since that is what the plugins are for.
>
> > in the first place
> > (review jboss 1.0 for that, it does it correctly and lets the container
> > branch).
>
> Which I think is wrong. As above.
>
> > And basing the decision of the container calls to be put in the
> > JAWS layer based on that poopoo is even more of a silly decision.
>
> You need to review your argumentation techniques, my friend. You haven't
> established an argument yet, and now you are using it to insult me. Not
> clever.
>
> > This whole branch of the decision taking is based on a flawed
> root (the metadata
> > is not correctly exposed in the first place) let's cut that
> branch and not
> > start arguing on the logic in the leaves.
>
> *sigh*. As above.
>
> > On average your code is truly great rickard (even bordering to genius
> > sometimes) and sometimes you go "hmmm he was tired that
> evening, too much
> > candy".
>
> True. This is definitely not one of those cases though.
>
> > I want to clean in peace and stop wasting my time.  You won't
> > regret it.
>
> Yes, stop wasting my time. Please restore the code you "fixed" and move
> on to actually doing things that matter.
>
> And PLEASE, if you find something that seems weird, PLEASE ASK ME FIRST,
> before calling it stupid and changing it. Who knows, there just might be
> a reason for it, which you're not seeing.
>
> Go figure.
>
> /Rickard, last day of vacation. Oh joy.
>
>
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