1. "democratize J2EE"
Good to hear that even if it is obvious.
I am sure a lot of people go out of JBoss today because when they read 10
messages on jboss-user, they understand 1 only. At least it is my case.
And everybody don't "want" (in the most general sense possible) to
understand the inside of a J2EE container. When jboss-user will become as
simple as weblogix newsgroup, or even when jboss-user will see only 2
messages per day, that will mean JBoss has besome The Web OS platform of
choice (as linux becomes as simple to use as windowz and apache as IIS if I
can make this shortcut)
Financing is one thing, lobbying is another one you did not approach (make
conferences, have JBossOne days, go to gartner,etc...) but I guess financing
is the first step right?
2. Financing, of course (and that's a too little word) you deserve it, it is
needed, ...
3. JBG,JBO
When you look at MySQL, it has been developed open source and now
Nusphere(from Progress Software-a db vendor) and others "simply" repackage
that on a cdrom with a big book, give different levels of support,... and
make money from it. It looks a bit to me that it has been "stolen" from
opensource. You are absolutely right to put everything in place asap.
Just my 0.02 francs
Aaaaaaaaaall the best.
Vincent.
marc wrote:
I am sorry if what I am saying is absolutely obvious to many of you (like it
was for Vaughn in his JDJ article). We are a crowd of "uber-geek" and many
"enlightend IT" or at least "technology leaders". We need to expand to
reach the "crowd", it is our natural target, our future. We will
democratize J2EE. We are a mature group OSS wise, we need the same
commercially.
marc
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|Cheers
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|-----Original Message-----
|From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 12:32 PM
|To: JBoss-Dev
|Subject: RE: [jBoss-Dev] I guess we should call it quits ...
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|well,
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|sorry I am jumping late. Only today did I read it.
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|While there is a lot of FUD, I do relate to some of the points made by MS
|guys.
|I do believe that even open source needs funding to grow and manage
|innovation :)
|I am in that spot right now and believe me it is a bitch to figure out :)
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|Without proper "financing of research and innovation" it isn't as fast or
|powerful as proprietary funded models.
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|There is a pragmatic solution we believe ;-)
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|marc
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||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luke Taylor
||Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:52 AM
||To: JBoss-Dev
||Subject: Re: [jBoss-Dev] I guess we should call it quits ...
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||"I'm an American, I believe in the American Way, I worry if the
||government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough
||education of policy makers to understand the threat."
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||The mind boggles at such nonsense. But when they start talking about
||"The American Way"* you know they're getting desperate. They'll be
||saying Open Source is a "Socialist Software" plot next.
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||Luke.
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||* I guess it depends on exactly *which* American way you're talking
||about... Maybe he means the "Corporate giants crushing all competition
||and stifling innovation" American Way as opposed to the covered wagons,
||ordinary joe makes good through honest hard work and enterprise
||variety.
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|| Luke Taylor.
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