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|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jay
|Walters
|Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 12:05 PM
|To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss on JBoss
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|Why the decision to remove apache and serve everything from tomcat?
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|Cheers
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The vision for the 4th generation servers does call for pure java layers.
The nodes will live in the JMX layers and bring "services" up in a run-time
and manageable fashion. That management is unified in the nodes and across
nodes.
We really will be talking about cluster management at once. I believe this
was about the only strong point of iPlanet (management).
So 4th gen (of which JBoss3.0 will be an incarnation) really put the type of
service in the background and just focus on farms of nodes and their
management as well as their invocation layers because we can unify all that.
It is extremelly close to the webservices vision from .NET and while the
implementation is late (and we are ALREADY THERE) the vision from billg is
real. We provide UDDI and whatever it is that you use to talk to the nodes,
we don't care we implement the service in an MBean and the trick is routing
the invocation to the right service.
That you call through http or rmi or soap or a morse biip biiiiip biiip
spoutnik-adapter is IRRELEVANT the node can listen and route to the right
services with a detyped message (close to our MethodInvocation message).
Now it of course calls, simpler to MBean and manage and *code*, for java
modules to give the services. For all the weaknesses of Tomcat I do buy
their "grandiose" view of replacing the httpd server (that is REALLY what
SUN is trying to do there, in case you did not notice, Tomcat's success will
be Apache's fall). I do adhere to that since we are moving even beyond that
view with JB3.0. I need this vision to come true and I hope the Tomcat
folks can move inside Apache as they need (hence yesterday's ...ahh... never
mind...)
4th generation containers will just be manageable nodes with API
personalities deployed on it, a must, a much simpler abstraction much more
straightforward. will enable real management of farms. I will take you
there...
regards
marcf
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