|In our app, we don't use wars and ears, only jars for our EJBs.  Our jsps
|run off of a directory exposed through Jetty.  That way we can
|easily modify
|jsps on the fly.  Can't see why anybody would use WARS and EARS unless you
|were shipping a product.

this from teh "packaging" lover of 3 days ago ?

;=)

marcf
|
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luke
|> Taylor
|> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:59 PM
|> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Developing with JBoss
|>
|>
|> Andrew Scherpbier wrote:
|>
|>  > Rickard Öberg wrote:
|>  >
|>  >> David Jencks wrote:
|>  >>
|>  >>> How would this help in the least? My understanding is that
|> if you use a
|>  >>> directory, the dd is checked for time changes
|>  >>
|>  >>
|>  >> For the auto-deployer, yes. I think I'd actually prefer to
|not use the
|>  >> auto-deployer, and instead make an Ant task that does the deploy
|>  >> command explicitly. Then there's no need to watch dd's or anything.
|>  >
|>  >
|>  > I ran into the same problem and solved it by running Tomcat 4.0 as a
|>  > separate process during development.  Since tomcat works just
|fine with
|>  > an already unpacked tree for my webapp, I simply modify my
|> JSPs directly
|>  > (I have a symbolic link from my webapp development tree to tomcat's
|>  > webapps directory.)
|>
|>
|> I remember now raising the same sort of issue during the JBoss training
|> in London. I always end up running a separate web container during
|> development because the turnaround of redeploying due to minor jsp
|> changes is just too frustrating.
|>
|> It's not just about the time for the deployment, which is minimal - if
|> you're working on frontend stuff and just essentially modifying web
|> pages, then you lose your whole session state. If you have a complicated
|> web application with security, shopping carts etc, and you're working on
|> the checkout pages, then you have to go through the whole use-case
|> procedure every time you redeploy. If a web container can be configured
|> to pick up the jsp's directly then you only have to reload the page to
|> see a change.
|>
|> The only solution I've found is to run a separate tomcat instance
|> against jboss, with only the web application configured. The full ear is
|> still deployed in jboss as it would be in production. Configuring
|> security for a separate web container is a bit of a drag.
|>
|> The ideal situation would be if an integrated JBoss/Jetty or
|> JBoss/Tomcat could also be configured to use a separately configured web
|> application context during development and have the web coantainer spot
|> modifications to JSPs as above.
|>
|> Dunno if this is feasible, pie in the sky or what ...
|>
|> Luke.
|>
|>
|> --
|>   Luke Taylor.                                  Monkey Machine Ltd.
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