User developers. There are plenty of those around who just want a 
quickstart. Which about a week ago was what everyone was talking about I 
think. (the days blend together, it could have been 2 days ago, or 
yesterday even anymore)

Al

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>Is this meant for JBoss developers (those that contribute to JBoss) or for 
>User developers (those that use JBoss to run there J2EE/JMX applications)?
>
>--jason
>
>
>On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Allen Fogleson wrote:
>
>>The "problem" here is that the quickstart is meant to show developers 
>>how to get started fast. I believe this was the first concern of those 
>>asking for the demo apps. There is already the petstore app running on 
>>Jboss to show full E-Commerce style abilities. Im not against donating a 
>>full app mind you, I just think that the work behind it could be better 
>>spent developing several smaller apps (in the spirit of tomcats 
>>"examples" webapp) .
>>
>>My thinking here is twofold.
>>
>>  1) the purpose of a quickstart is to get developers up and running 
>>quickly. A full blown application wont really do this. Plus it fits in 
>>more to the model of the inexpensive documentation. Where the small apps 
>>fit in with the free docs part.
>>
>>  2) A full app would only assist some places in "selling" Jboss to a 
>>limited audience. I had meetings with 2 prospective clients in the past 
>>week and both have asked ME about Jboss. Granted it is on my resume and 
>>such as a technology I have used, but these people knew what it was. One 
>>in fact wondered why they didnt use jboss instead of weblogic 
>>(Especially after I told him about the features that will be in 3.0) 
>>Sorry BEA, you guys might lose that one :)
>>
>>Im not against helping out on a full application as I said before, but I 
>>think the initial thrust should be in the direction of a quickstart kind 
>>of thing. These are not really intensely documented apps, but more along 
>>the lines of little examples that show how to use (at least at a basic 
>>level) Jboss 3.
>>
>>I actually like the model Marc is using now. It makes sense to me. I 
>>like the idea that even though I am willing to submit stuff for free, 
>>when it comes to the more advanced stuff there might be some renumeration.
>>
>>Al
>>
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>I've been doing a few hours of thinking and came to a conclusion for a demo
>>>app.
>>>
>>>Would anyone like to assist me in creating an E-Bay style bidding
>>>application?
>>>
>>>James Hicks
>>>
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