ignore the noise, focus on the work marcf
PS: I agree with your analysis, the "J2EE certified" brand is weaker for every download we have and we are not certified. Having the most downloaded server not certified takes a lot of credibility out of the brand. I was reading the forum this was posted on and found interesting to hear that people say JBoss has become a "defacto-standard" of sorts. I believe that statement to be true at least for the development. Look at the download numbers we have >50k month weblogic has 3k for their free version. For the production I am waiting for a report that takes into account "free" and "for pay" and counts "CPUs" installed, I wouldn't be surprised the "Apache" story would repeat itself. But for now focus on the download numbers. The rest is noise. Noise, bla bla bla. |-----Original Message----- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dain |Sundstrom |Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:01 PM |To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net |Subject: [JBoss-dev] That flaming fireball in the sky... | | |I found this on the apache web site. I interpret this statement slightly |different the Jakarta guys. To me it looks like the J2EE licensees are |getting nervous about the high quality of the open source J2EE |implementations (i.e., JBoss), and feel the only way to distinguish them |selves in the marketplace is with some lame certification. | |----------------------------------------------------- |30 January 2002 - That flaming fireball in the sky... | |In a recent article, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and |Platform Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say: | |"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the past |two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts don't |impact the viability of that effort." | |In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing |restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does). Thus, |the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java Community Process |(JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim that they have a |'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary interfaces'. If you |would like to express your opinions of Sun's licensing terms, feel free to |contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know what you think. Thanks. | |Followup thread on Jakarta-General: J2EE considered harmful. | |_______________________________________________ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development