ok focus on what jsr77 does not on what it doesn't say it does.
Bottom line is just MEJB to do ANYTHING YOU WANT, what the spec doesn't say you should do is because, it doesn't say it. So if the 77 MEJB enables you to go and talk to the JMX node to get the information and deploy and what not, we are not going to wait for all the partners to get it right, we are going to do it right, and that means using the MEJB right now... so just do it, you are frankly misslead by the limitations of the spec. The spec says "at least do this" (state mgt, monitoring), it doesn't say don't do deploy and update... .in fact we will use MEJB for that. Claudio used it as such, IT WAS THE RIGHT WAY, don't even get there, it is silly marcf |-----Original Message----- |From: Andreas Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:26 AM |To: marc fleury |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] MEJB transactions (invoke deploy) | | |Hi Marc | |> actually (ok you are right he was looking in the wrong place) I |think that |> using the MEJB for JMX access... well... why not? | |Yes, you can but I don't think it is a good idea. I am currently talking |with |Hirom about the JBoss management tool and somehow we figured out |that with JSR-77 you can't manage a J2EE server well except that you |can start/stop existing components and find statistics about their |performance. |So any creation of new components (datasources, deployment -> JSR-88 etc.) |or the changes of the current configuration is not supported by JSR-77. | |The change of the configuration can be added by vendor-specific attributes/ |methods. I also think the the creation of new components can be added |by vendor-specific components (under J2EEServer a components called |JBossService). | |Today I will start added the first JBoss-specific component (SARModule, |MBean) to the JSR-77 implementation. Let's see how this goes. | |> dude it will become the standard JMX access in a secure and transaction |> fashion. Claudio got the secure part right... he missed the transactional |> part and was pulling a jasonism.. "i don't get it? I rip it!"... | |I (respectfully) disagree, Sir. I think an Adaptor / Connector (like EJB or |Juha's Adaptor/Connectors) are the correct way because MEJB is missing |the createMBean() and the unregisterMBean() methods. | |> ok look, go walk the dog, make love to the wife as you are leaving for a |> week and take care, |> |> Claudio, based on the clues we have, is partially right, | |Yes, he is, no argument here. | |See ya - Andy | _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
