Dain helps me say it nicely, 

Marcf


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:29 PM
> To: marc fleury
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Implementing a Resource Protection System?
> 
> 
> Here is a more friendly response:
> 
> This is a bad idea. You are saying that in the hosted 
> environment, when 
> one module is a hog, the system asks "politely" for the other well 
> behaved parts, to "please let go of some memory, cause the hog over 
> there wants some."  More importantly you are talking about a 
> huge amount 
> of effort when you can simply run multiple JBoss instances.  If you 
> compare the cost of say an extra 20 megs of memory per JBoss 
> instance to 
> the cost of developing and maintaining this code, you will 
> agree with me 
> and buy an extra 256 MB chip for $50.
> 
> -dain
> 
> marc fleury wrote:
> > Dain,
> > 
> > How can I say this nicely to you?
> > 
> > marcf
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:22 PM
> >>To: marc fleury
> >>Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Implementing a Resource Protection System?
> >>
> >>
> >>I thought we were not going to call people (or their ideas) dumb
> >>anymore.  I agree that is is a dumb idea, but we should be nicer.
> >>
> >>-dain
> >>
> >>marc fleury wrote:
> >>
> >>>>I've thought about doing this in some of the other architectures 
> >>>>I've written from time to time.  It's possible to keep an eye on 
> >>>>memory usage and track its stats over time, so you can know when 
> >>>>memory's becoming scarce and start telling different parts of the 
> >>>>system "Memory's tight.  Can you do what you can do to 
> lighten the 
> >>>>load?"  That wasn't all that hard to do- every time this 
> >>>>architecture deployed a "job" to run, it kept a handle to 
> them and 
> >>>>would asynchronously call a method on them that contained "best
> >>>>effort" code to lighten up the load and call the GC.  That 
> >>>>works fine when you just know that you're using more and more 
> >>>>memory and just want to politely ask deployed code to attempt 
> >>>>to help out.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rhet,
> >>>
> >>>LOL, do you realize how dumb this is??? You are saying that in the
> >>>hosted environment, when one module is a hog, the system asks 
> >>>"politely" for the other well behaved parts, to "please let 
> >>
> >>go of some
> >>
> >>>memory, cause the hog over there wants some"... Dude, you were
> >>>sleeping when you wrote this.  I'll sue you if you commit 
> >>
> >>this to our
> >>
> >>>tree :)
> >>>
> >>>Marcf
> >>>
> >>>PS: for your own application it was probably fine
> >>>
> >>>
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