> That was a conscious decision. If we are going to get to 24x7 
> available kernels it means never restarting the server. Bad 
> apps should be fixable without taking down the server. The 

he is only talking about not deploying one component, not the rest of
the system.

> warning log message is necessary if an admin is to be 

yes, but not in its current form.  Have you seen the logoreah of stuff
that gets printed to the screen? We were there once with like 10 stack
traces for every error, we went back down to almost a presentable
console and now we are back to 1001 lines that say nothing relevant.
AAAARGH! I can't keep it under control.  I have seen this trace for
trivial stuff. Please put only the main reason in the console and the
rest in a "debug" statement. 

marc f



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