Marc & group,

  Thanks for the details.  

> We tried to rewrite
> the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever due to the publishing
> framework getting in the way. 
  
  My good friend Google just explained "CMS publishing" to me, and I think I 
understand the issue.  It is not PHP vs. J2EE, but Post-Nuke vs. a J2EE-based CMS that 
apparently DNE.

  Not the best situation...

  - Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP


> Bill,
> 
> Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not "eating your 
> own dog food".

you should.     

> > JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content 
> Management 
> > System.
> 
> This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using 
> J2EE instead of PHP ;) Could you divulge the precise 
> reason(s) for choosing Post-Nuke? (I can think of many 
> factors that often outweigh technical superiority -- time, 
> money, expedience, IP issues... was it one of these?)

the real reason is that the APPLICATION IS THERE.  We tried to rewrite
the forums (which we did) and it took us for ever due to the publishing
framework getting in the way.  The problem we have is that PostNuke is a
bunch of PHP files with direct DB access in it and we are having
scalability nightmares.  Our machine used to be 15% utilization max
(slashdot was 50%) due TO THE CACHES IN JBOSS.  And without it, we have
100 people on the website and the machine is pegged.  

So the application is there so we use it.  We need it NOW.  Julien viet,
who was writing the forums, is now on JBoss payroll and will be working
on JNUKE. A straight port of PHP functionality to JBoss. PHP is ugly and
functional, my kind of code but at the end of the day it doesn't scale
well at all due to all the crap they do.  EJB are good things :)

Peace, 

marcf




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