The command line works okay (even on the mac after the 3 day installation procedure) except when it doesn't with weird opaque messages about locks that make even less sense than the CVS ones. At least SVN is slower than CVS (or at least ours vs ours). I was getting too unfrustrated when we moved off of sf and our checkouts started whizzing by the screen. I think I even filed a jira bug at one point "files scroll to fast for me to see what I'm checking out".

The good news is that with SVN and Maven2 we will be WAY cooler than we are now. The bad news is that we must do things the Maven and SVN way and if we do not we will be badly punished. However, pain is a necessary part of art and I applaud both these efforts for their necessity (as opposed to say making a kickass management console, the installer do more stuff) and focus as well as really helping move forward our pain^M^M^M^Mart.

-andy (who mostly uses command line cvs anyhow)

Scott M Stark wrote:
So I tried using this tomcat svn repo in both eclipse using the
http://subclipse.tigris.org/ plugin and in intellij 5.1.
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/current/tc5.5.x I found a line referring to the "people wearing tin hats" in one of the
tomcat files and wanted to see who the commedian was, but the annotate
command in intellij did nothing. The history view just showed a huge
list of number that could not be arranged into any type of structure and
I got tired of browsing through the comments to find the change.

Using eclipse I could not even checkout the tc5.5.x project using the
Import->Checkout from SVN command. When it got to the "Select the folder
to be checked out from SVN" dialog, it was just blank. So far I'm
underwhelmed with the svn tool support.


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