The decision I as a user make is whether I want a product where I pay for
each question I ask and end up in some damned request database or if I want
a open source product with a _working community_. That's the decision.
If I decide to take the company product I don't mind if I have to pay $0 or
$1000 for the production server or if I can peak into some not
understandable code (because the docu is missing).
Keep up the good support. That's all I have to say :-)
Tobias
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:17 PM
> To: jBoss
> Subject: RE: [jBoss-User] Ibm open sources websphere
>
>
> you are probably right,
> it just shows that the writing is on the wall
>
> and
>
> it is mostly a move to piss off SUN imho.
>
> battle of the titans is done through open source... <?/> wow right ?
>
> We have several accounts that say that the container EJB
> stuff is sub-par.
> I know we brag alot about how advanced our container is, but
> I would hate to
> see IBM treat the websphere stuff and how it relates to open
> source as yet
> another "corporate garbage can".
>
> In any case I am starting to grow into the idea that THIS IS
> EXCELLENT news
> for us, it points the industry to a pot of gold, (old IBM
> FUD tactic to
> kill competition, can *you* open source your appserver? is
> the message they
> are sending to the industry) but WE as jboss/telkel already
> are sitting at
> the bottom of it and we are not afraid ... :) no we are not afraid...
> Interesting times, don't you think folks? I think the
> weakest point of
> jboss is the "corporate look" and we can address that with
> solid code and
> partnerships that are in the pipe... so stay tuned and take
> your part in
> this amazing revolution... come help us!
>
> regards
>
> marc
>
> PS: Peace to WebLogic, it must be scary he guys?...
> Particularly Peace to you sriram we think you rock!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vaughn Vernon
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:26 PM
> > To: jBoss
> > Subject: Re: [jBoss-User] Ibm open sources websphere
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Interesting, the trend is contagious.
> >
> > However, just an observation. Effectively all that IBM is
> open sourcing in
> > the *Standard Edition* (that is, if they actually do it) is a
> > competitor to
> > Apache/Tomcat. Wow ;-) Looks like they are still going to hold
> > back the ejb
> > server for sale. So, whose the nice guy? Certainly partial
> > motivation is to
> > hook Standard Edition users and then whaaaamm! $xK for
> Enterprise support.
> > So is the plan bigger than just making Sun, BEA, Microsoft, etc.,
> > as the bad
> > guys? Besides, when they open the "warehouse" and there
> are, say, 10,000
> > copies of the Standard Edition at the beginning of the
> first day, maybe by
> > the end of the first day the "warehouse" will have 10,001 copies ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Vaughn
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "marc fleury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "jBoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:42 PM
> > Subject: [jBoss-User] Ibm open sources websphere
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/08/21/000821hnwebs
phere.xml
> >
> > ________________________
> > Marc Fleury, Ph.D.
> > Chief Technology Officer
> > Telkel, Inc.
> > ________________________
> >
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