I am glad to hear that but the last sentence I cannot stay as it is because
it is not true.

Even when they are expensive they come with (at least missing in JBoss
NOW):
- Clustering
- Failover
- Administration GUI
- References
- Some with up to date EJB spec. support

I like how JBoss is designed, implemented and how the project become
more and more mature but I (IMO) wouldn't suggest JBoss for an enterprise
to use in a high-end productive environment (regarding to performance,
scalability and down time).

I think there is a reason (not only the brand name) why Weblogic or Web-
Sphere is pricy and as a consultant you should respect that to support your
client as best as possible.

BUT this does not mean we cannot kick some asses in BEA and IBM,
so let's do it.

Have fun - Mad Andy / Better Pizza

Senior Java Developer
eBuilt Inc. (www.ebuilt.com)

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From: "Kemp Randy-W18971" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 7:08 AM
Subject: [jBoss-User] J2EE technologies


> I have read the jboss decisions about how J2EE fits in and how newcomers
can learn this technology.  I also agree with the reference to Enterprise
JavaBeans by Richard Monson-Haefel, which is a great book.  My suggestion is
to take some examples and play with them.  Take a couple of great EJB
servers, like Jboss and Orion (with it's free development license, at
www.orionserver.com), and look into Richard Monson-Haefel own implementation
of openEJB when it's available (www.openEJB.org).  I would stay away from
Jonas, as you need to play configuration games.  If you get two or three
good EJB servers running, like the one's I mentioned, try porting some
developed applications to the different EJB servers and play with them.  If
you need to play with another web server talking to an EJB application, try
Resin.  Stay away from the high priced implementations, unless you like to
give away money (in which case, I would gladly accept donations).  Keep up
the great work, Jboss crew.
>
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