I'm not quite sure of your application architecture, but a PAGE scope component 
thats available in restore won't be available in render (you are in a different 
page scope by then).

anonymous wrote : Is it the case that if you are relying on EL to create your 
instances, then the order of the elements in the page is important? 

Of course. *Something* needs to tell Seam to create the component, be it the 
component (@AutoCreate), the EL, or the @In(create=true).

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