"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote : Of course @Out doesn't cause @Create not to run. 
You have some other problem.

Hi Pete hope its not too cold up there in Scotland.

I think I should re-explain...

I had a page that dragged in some Varibles that were @outjected from a Seam  
bean.

I assumed that the bean that "hosted" these outjected variables would have its 
@Create method run when the variable was used... How wrong I was... The Create 
appears to ONLY be called when you call a routine within the bean.

Does that make sense now.

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