The thirdparty directory seems to cover a lot of (only?) non-jboss stuff.  For 
example, AbstractController.java is not under the 5.0 source directory 
anywhere, and it seems to be an important player here.  I found a copy of it 
under viewvc, but it's obviously a different version as the line numbers don't 
line up.  But I am at least able to look at variable values for that class in 
the debugger.

And, yes, EJB3-1430 is the reason I downloaded beta4.  I'm not sure how 
anyone's getting anywhere with CR2 as it stands.  But, agreed, it's hard to 
tell if it's specific to the Beta4 load, as my current issue would have been 
preempted by the other one.

Uploading the application might be a bit difficult as I don't think it'd be 
simply a matter of giving you the ear.

I figured out the log4j thing - we had altered the default one so those lines 
weren't coming out.  I just had to set the logger 
'org.jboss.ejb3.deployers.JBossASKernel' to 'INFO' level.

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