"[email protected]" wrote : "amlodzin" wrote : 
  |   | The problem, in the app-state case, is that the 
"jboss.web.deployment:*" MBeans use a random id as a key property, in addition 
to just one other key property - the war file name. That makes it impossible to 
link a particular war file with its parent EAR file (if there is one) when 
several ear files are deployed containing the a war file with the same name.
  |   | 
  | Where do you see that - which AS version?

Every version of JBoss 4.x, including at least 4.0.2 to 4.2.3.
Also, JBoss 5.0.0 does away with the random id - but replaces it with NOTHING! 
So, if you could find the ID in 4.x (say, hidden in the Exception generated by 
jboss.system:service=MainDeployer.checkIncompleteDeployments()), you might have 
had a chance of matching it up to the MBean that contains the modules 
StateString. In 5.0.0, that chance, however slim, is gone completely.



"[email protected]" wrote : Also, I'd be interested in some hard facts about 
JBoss' insignificance, rather than some random ranting.

Got your attention, didn't it ;)
In our business of providing monitoring solutions for J2EE middleware, we 
always build support in stages: WebLogic 1st; WebSphere 2nd; OracleAS 3rd; 
JBoss last.  I'm sure there are reasons beyond what the various appservers have 
to offer - but we follow the money.

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