J W [https://community.jboss.org/people/jmwest532] created the discussion

"Runtime engine: JBPM Console or Drools Server?"

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With all the videos around that show the nice integration of the JBPM Console 
with Guvnor, and its whole set of features, one would have thought that  JBPM 
Console is the ubiquitous remote runtime engine for rules and business process. 
We have found that out the box the JBPM Console among other limitations, 
doesn’t use or leverage Spring, Camel, etc. 
One would have expected JBPM Console to be built on top of Drools Server (which 
is Spring and Camel ready), and Drools Server to be a production ready runtime 
engine. But it turns out JBPM Console in an old project not related to Drools 
Server and out of the box the Drools Server doesn’t seem to deal with business 
process persistence, dynamic creation of statefull  ksession per request/user, 
etc.
Having dynamic creation of statefull ksession per request (i.e. per business 
process instance) is a must when you are using business processes that include 
Rule Tasks components since facts related to a particular request must be 
persisted to be used later in a long running business process. However, we have 
found JBPM Console uses and reuses the same SessionInfo record for different 
process instance, and Drools Server’s documentation only talks about statically 
defined ksessions inside the Spring configuration file.
Is there a production ready runtime engine able to run long running/persistent 
business processes that include Rules Tasks components (these also require 
rules-facts persistence)?
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