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"Re: Which Designer?"

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3- When you create a new BPMN Process under eclipse and then create a Java 
class to test the process (knowledge base /session creation, add process, ...) 
it is only local and not deployed under JAS, correct?
4- To deploy a process in JAS the only way is to use drools-guvnor or is there 
another way to deploy a process?
5- I guess real and common life using of jBPM is through JAS so my question is, 
the only way to interact with the jBPM engine and deployed processes (of 
course) in JAS is the REST API (apart from the jBPM console)?
6- I don't think it is available but I need to ask : is there a REST function 
to signal events (in fact the same as ksession.signalEvent(...) in Java)?
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3) Depends on how your test is written , but yes unit tests typically run 
locally..it's up to you to deploy your process definitions and related 
artifacts yourself to wherever you want for testing
4) You don't really need guvnor for deployment. You could create the .pkg 
yourself using drools-ant tasks and push it to your own servers for example and 
let the client applications consume it. You could also if you are using the 
jBPM Console place your process definitions and artifacts like process image, 
task forms, dependency jars (such as service node impls for example) on the 
console classpath and it will be able to see them
5) jBPM does not need an application server..you can package the jBPM runtime 
component anywhere you like..in a test case, a stand-alone application, in an 
applet even  ;)  and of course also the application server inside your war's 
WEB-INF/lib for example
6) The jBPM Console has the ability to performa signal events 

3) ok
4) ok thanks for the possibilities I may have a look at further
5) ok
6) Yes I saw the button in the jBPM console (it is a bigger one than the i 
surrounded button in web designer  ;) ).
Is it normal that a process whose first node is a StartSignalEvent can be 
started with the Start button in jBPM console?
I think it is a mistake since it is a Signal Event that shoud start the 
Process, in others words :
=> the Start button might be disabled since in my process there is no classic 
Start Event => this may imply that the process should be parsed first to detect 
the possible start(s) of the process and put correct button states in jBPM 
console 
=> anyway the Start button should have no impact on the the Process starting 
since it is not signaling anything
- the Signal button should not be disabled so that the process can be started 
with a particular Event as input
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