From:   Thomas Nichols [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

        I'd like to upgrade the JDE 2.1.4 that ships with XEmacs to the
latest 
        (2.1.6 beta - but I can't get beanshell working - "M-x bsh" prints 
        "Starting the Beanshell, please wait......" and then hangs - I never
see a 
        command prompt. I've read that XEmacs/NT is not fully supported yet
- is 
        there a schedule to fix this? I may simply not have installed JDE
correctly 
        for XEmacs,

        The development team here are heartily sick of JBuilder 2 C/S, and
are 
        experimenting with VisualAge -- and NTEmacs is going to be just too
huge a 
        culture shock, I think. XEmacs can be made fairly Windows-like in 
        behaviour, so this might be quite acceptable to them -- if I can get
the 
        latest version of JDE working with it. If it's completely
unfeasible, maybe 
        I'll have to use NTEmacs instead?

Why the beta version of jde? 2.15 works fine for me. As for emacs, it will
work with emacs on NT, as that is what I use at home. 

According to www.xemacs.org <http://www.xemacs.org> , xemacs is now
supported on NT, however the binaries are not yet available. If you do get a
binary build working, please feel free to post a link to it!

-- 
Matt

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