NOTE #1
> I agree with Javier Lopez that this needs to be posted on the JDE web
site
> in the Requirements section. I will do so ASAP.
Yes, I woke up this morning and saw Javier's note. Service pack 2 did the
trick!
Thanks Javier! thanks Paul!
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NOTE #2
Forgive me if the following has been considered many times before but it
seems
so appropriate that I must ask:
Are there political reasons that preclude packaging eieio, elib, jde,
semantic, and speedbar
into a single .zip file?
It may seem like a trivial matter, and it wouldn't have helped in my case
(except I would
have been confident from the beginning that it was not an installation
issue).
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NOTE #3
> > Jikes implements some good ideas. My question is why did IBM not work
> > with Sun to implement them in javac rather than create a new wheel.
> A number of reasons:
>
> - - SUN is notoriously stuborn when it comes to using Java for
EVERYTHING. They
> would not have accepted a Java compiler written in C.
>
> - - Jikes is Open Source(it might be Free Software... don't know). Java
is not.
>
> - - Jikes was the result of a research project. It is often impossible
to have
> others particpate in a research project.
Yes. I am working at the IBM lab where jikes was developed (though I had
nothing to
do with the project). The project was started by a bunch of compiler
techies w/o any official endorsement
from SUN and with no guarantees on what would be produced.
Now that it exists, I believe the IBM research team would love to have
their code
be adopted by Sun, and have tried to get that to happen. My sense is that
Sun wants
to keep fairly tight control of the core of Java, and is thus reluctant to
do this.
I personally think this is short sighted. It reminds me of the UNIX
producers
fighting each other rather than banding together to build a better OS. In
the
end none of them really had the resources to maintain their own OS.
I think Java is a nice basis for many types of applications, but I don't
think
Sun alone can effectively push it into all of the areas where it could
nicely
fit. That which does not move forward faster than the background gets
eaten.
I hope it doesn't happen to Java.
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Oh yes, and VAJ will *never* replace programmable environments like
Emacs/JDE.
Sure as they become more comprehensive/reliable they will siphon off some
Emacs fans. But in the end, only another totally programmable enviroment
with a huge developer base like Emacs will ever be able to pry the
"but-I-want-my-mode-line-to-show-the-column-number-before-the-row-number"
type away from this gem.
NOTE: I am just one random reseracher in a really big corporation.
Of course, I really have no idea what Sun or IBM's official
position is on any other this. These are just my thoughts.
Cheers,
Dan
