Asking your ISP to setup a Jabber server if you don't mind maintaining it yourself may be possible even if your ISP is having financial difficulties. An IM system is certainly a "feature" your ISP can list - a feature that many companies pay dearly for. Your ISP instantly moves into a new class when it incorperates IM as a standard feature in its offering.
As for your comment about them realizing the full power of Jabber, I think you're a little too much of an optimist. It's good, though, IMHO: we need more optimists in the world. - Dave Mattias Campe wrote: > > Dave wrote: > > Reply inline: > > > > - Dave > > > > > > Mattias Campe wrote: > > > >>Dave wrote: > >> > [...] > > > >>>Also, I think we should all list our JIDs as early as possible in our > >>>contact info lists. Having our email addresses and Jabber IDs be the > >>>same is also good, because it gives us a measurable advantage over all > >>>other major IM systems with the exception of MSN (although why anybody > >>>would want to use Hotmail over Yahoo! Mail at this point is beyond me) > >>>in terms of consistency. > >> > >>[...] > >> > >>I personally don't think that a lot of people need another e-mail > >>addres. Maybe it's better to write libraries that client developers can > >>use to check their existing e-mail adress(es) for new e-mail. Of course > >>you could make it a server thing and having the info through headlines. > >>Then every client automatically would support this notification (of > >>course if the server supports it) > > > > Nonono ... I'm not talking about getting another email address; I'm talking about >using your domain (which you're probably already using for email) for Jabber too, so >you can have your JID be the same as your already-existing email addy :-) > > Sorry, I misunderstood. Than I also like the idea ;-) > > > > > > >>>Lastly, of course (how many people have already shouted this?), > >>>getting ISPs to setup a tiny Linux box running a Jabber server for > >>>their subscribers would be great, and getting users to ask their ISPs > >>>to provide Jabber servers may be even better. > >> > >>Imagine how it would be if the Jabber Community could be convinced of > >>the use of Jabber! Well, reality is different, real life example: my ISP > >>provided a CD-Rom with some software on it, like IE and Netscape. Guess > >>what sort of IM systems were on it? Jup, ICQ and MSN, not a byte, not > >>even a bit was devoted to Jabber :( ... > > > > Have you tried complaining to your ISP that they don't "support" > > Jabber, or some other type of rediculous accusation just to get their > > awareness up? > > To be honest: no. The problem is that my ISP has some financial problems > so I think they won't change. Of course if I do not try it, they > probably never change... > > > > >>Of course if ISPs would have a Jabber server, then I hope that they make > >>it clear enough to the people that they actually can choose any server > >>they want. Otherwise people will think that Jabber just is another > >>proprietary IM system. > > > > If an ISP is willing to use Jabber, I'll say "Thank you very much" and > > avoid picking any further. Users will figure out whatever they want > > whenever they want, but the reality is that most users don't seem to > > mind being "locked in" even when we're talking about _real_ proprietary > > protocols (e.g. AIM, ICQ, YIM, MSNM, etc.). You certainly won't see me > > complaining about people unknowningly using an open IM system ;-) > > But if they would understand what Jabber is all about, it would be even > greater :D . > > >>>Clearly, we need to reveal the "secret" of Jabber, because at the moment, > >>>Jabber really is one of the best-kept secrets - even in the open source > >>>community itself - because people simply don't know what it actually > >>>is :-( > >> > > I can't stress that enough :-( > > > > > >>>Dave Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>[...] > >> > >>.m. > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>jdev mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > jdev mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > > > > _______________________________________________ > jdev mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev > _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
