No: when I'm DnD for IM, then certainly I'm DnD for VoIP (also known as "away"). But when I'm in a voip call, I'm certainly still able to read IM messages: this is a presence information, and it can't be guessed from the IM presence.
Ah but the presence stanza is intended to indicate your IM presence not your phone presence if that is something separate, if you really do need to express your VoIP presence info separately then you must keep it separate from the IM presence by not using the <presence/> stanza, what you need to look at using is pubsub instead.
I'm not convinced it isn't presence, as discussed above. And since it is presence, I should be able to call my contact right away, not invite him/her. Just like once we accepted each other, we're able to send messages to each other right away...
As I have shown above I can now see what you are trying to accomplish, what you need is to use pubsub to separately represent your VoIP presence (but not using jabber:x:oob) if you really think its necessary, I am unconvinced its needed but thats just me, if you are on the phone surely you should also be "dnd" (On the phone) in your IM presence too, it doesnt stop people sending you messages, it just lets people know you are on the phone (as it should IMO).
I thought I had been precise enough: my main motivation is to develop some convenient and clean way to enable voip in gaim using jabber. Reading jabber documentation is a mean towards the goal, not the goal himself. I'm not saying "I don't want to develop".
I think the jabber:x:oob trick is both standard -- and respects the spirit of what presence should be.
No now I can see what you are trying to do jabber:x:oob is not the correct solution to expressing that you are in a VoIP call, the only thing jabber:x:oob should ever be used for is to send VoIP URI's to people to invite them into that call, trying to use it to express to others that you are in a VoIP call is simply wrong and will not work correctly with most existing clients, as receiving such a URI in "jabber:x:oob" will trigger most clients that support oob to ask the user if they want to join the call that they have just been sent (as that is what "jabber:x:oob" is supposed to be for).
Overall tho I am not sure you are quite understanding things correctly, the presence stanza is not intended to communicate anything other than your IM presence, if you want to express VoIP presence as something different from the IM presence it must be carried using pubsub just as other protocols for communicating such things user mood have done (these protocols are collectively known as extended presence). Also "jabber:x:oob" is not intended to communicate anything other than a URI which in the case of VoIP URI's will always be an invitation to the indicated VoIP session, it cannot be used to indicate a user is currently in a call, and in any case indicating that a user is in a VoIP call using a VoIP URI which is received by people that are not in the call is a potensial security hole as only people actually in the call should ever have that information.
Richard
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