You're right, but regardless of scaleability and efficiency, it's still
defining more or less the same thing which was already defined in JEP-0070.
The title of JEP-0070 pretty much reads as exactly what JEP-0101 does.
It could have been co-authored or something to merge the two ideas so
that it would work either way. :-)

It might have but I was working on JEP-0101 long before JEP-0070 actually came out, and I did submit it long before the date it actually says on it as it took a while and a couple of attempts to get through to Peter, ive got a feeling it might even have been before JEP-0070 came out that I started trying to submit it.

Actually, I'm not entirely convinced that JEP-0070 requires a Jabber
server to be embedded in the web server.  The same protocol would work
with only a client embedded in the server, just like existing web sites
don't require an embedded email server to send email confirmations.

Sure using the word "server" was probably the wrong term to use, but it does require some kind of jabber "component" or other to be tied into the webserver for it to work.

It's a little inefficient, yes.  It's not so conceptually perfect, because
it did require the user confirming the message, rather than having anything
automated... but I do think the two could have been merged somehow.

Maybe so but im not sure how as the author of the other spec seemed to want to go about it in an entirely different way which was not really compatible with how I needed it to work (I use a version of this spec in production and had been before either protocol came out), all I was doing was documenting a method I use that works very well. After JEP-0070 came out I considered implementing that instead but it wouldnt have worked very well in my situation for the reasons already outlined and since they do go about it in two fundamentally different ways I didnt see the problem at the time with releasing my spec too, I thought it might come in useful for someone.

Richard


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