Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Jabber is to XMPP as the Web is to HTTP.RightGeeks talk about HTTP, but end users talk about web browsers and web sites.Wrong. When end users read "http://www.example.org/";, they will *associate* this with the address of a website!
No Sander, you are wrong. Have you *ever* heard a non-geek talk about an "HTTP client" or "HTTP server"?
Geeks talk about XMPP, but end users talk about Jabber clients (or just IM clients).Semi-wrong: the part between brackets is right.Therefore I think it is best for end-user clients to use the term "Jabber". This is more user-friendly and less geeky for Aunt Tillie.Neither "Jabber" not "XMPP" should be used IMHO. Let them use the term "instant messaging", but make them *associate* the term "XMPP" with "instant messaging". When people (both geeks and end users) see the term "XMPP" and/or the logo on a website or in some software, they should directly associate it with interoperability, open standard, instant messaging, not getting locked in a walled garden, and so forth.
I have no objections to that, for sure.
Summary: 1) "HTTP" versus "XMPP": association with open standard for Web/IM 2) globe logo versus XMPP wings logo: association with open standard for Web/IM 3) Web/website/web browser/web server/... versus Instant messaging/instant messaging address (or Contact ID)/instant messaging client/instant messaging server: what people use in daily life 4) Goal of using the XMPP wings logo or the term "XMPP": get people to actually *associate* both with the one and only good way of interroperable instant messaging ;-) So, people don't need to actually call your service/client/server an "XMPP service"/"XMPP client"/"XMPP server". People only should make the association that your service/client/server is interroperable/open/open standard/good/not evil/great/fantastic/amazing/you knowThat said, I am an individualist and I value decentralization, so if particular IM clients want to call it XMPP instead of Jabber, that's their business. But I reserve the right to boycott them. :)That's your right, but it's also my right to try to change your mind ;-)
I prefer IM to Jabber. But for end users I prefer Jabber to XMPP! /psa
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