Jonathan Schleifer wrote: > Am 10.12.2008 um 20:11 schrieb Dirk Meyer: > >> Great. A question to day 2: I guess the priority will be on "XMPP as >> Skype replacement", so RTP over Jingle, ICE-UDP and friends. But we >> should also have a discussion about the future of Jingle for TCP-like >> requirements like file-transfer and e2e streams (see day 3). So ICE- >> TCP >> or something like this comes to my mind. I never was on an XMPP summit >> before, but maybe split the Jingle discussion into three parts: Jingle >> basics, UDP (VoIP), and TCP (ICE-TCP, TURN, etc). > > Well, actually, UDP for file transfers can be desirable if you want to > circumvent NAT. :) So UDP can work where TCP doesn't. Of course, you > then need integrity checks.
I know. But maybe one client is not behind a NAT. In that case we could open a TCP connection directly. Or one client behind a NAT has UPnP IGD or NAT-PMP support in the router. It would be a shame to go into the UDP trouble if one of these solutions work. >> And one note to file transfer on day 3: are there any ideas to support >> seeking in file transfers? It would be a nice feature and I already >> have >> some ideas. Maybe we can discuss it, too. > > Streaming audio/video where you can seek? :) Yes. > Maybe this should be implemented in Jingle Audio/Video and not in > Jingle File Transfers. I don't like RTP for my use case. Why sacrifice a packet that is too late when you are watching a video from your home server? I don't need the real-time from RTP in this case. I will go into details in a post on the standards list. Give me some time to sort my memory. :) > But OTOH, seeking in File Transfers would allow > something like XMPPFS :). And it shouldn't be too hard to code for Linux using Fuse. I wrote a small Fuse filesystem once, not a big deal. It sounds like a very crazy idea ... I like it. :) If there is djmount [1], why not XMPPFS? Dirk [1] http://djmount.sourceforge.net/ -- Life's unfair - but root password helps! _______________________________________________ JDev mailing list FAQ: http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq Forum: http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20 Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________
