On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Thijs Alkemade <th...@xnyhps.nl> wrote:

> However, a large number of clients do not prioritize (EC)DHE above the non-
> ephemeral variants. To enforce that these are used, it is therefore
> required
> to either disable all non-ephemeral suites or configure the server to
> override
> the client's order with the server's order.
>

I may be talking rubbish, but shouldn't the server be overriding the
client's order by default anyway?

In other news, there's a lengthy discussion on use of ADH and
unauthenticated TLS in general - we;ve previously considered this largely
worthless, but using it forces an outside agency trying to "dragnet" to
MITM every connection, which raises significant overhead.

Dave.
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