<warning>Yes, I'm in an allegorical mood. Beware bad plays on words.</warning>
One might benefit in suggesting that the blind not bother leading the blind, unless the leader actually is sure of how to avoid the ditch. I've been about a while, too, and it's been my experience that catering to the... um... "less informed" only provides a situation in which the "less informed" can remain that way. After all, once they hit YET ANOTHER HURDLE, all they have to do is go to whatever forum gave them help. However, if the response is geared towards teaching them how to fish instead of handing them a bit of tuna, the entire industry benefits. And if the fishing manual is delivered via cattle prod, they learn that much quicker. >From: "Mark E. Zawadzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [jdjlist] RE: Get Client's Ip address/machine name >Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) > >Explain why an attack on someone who tried to answer one of these clueless >ones is justified . >--- Jason Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you go on any irc channel with java in it you tend to get people just > > joining and expecting everyone else to sort their problems out. it >starts > > to wear thin after a while. > > > > So if you are a newbie then read up a bit. > > > > I would have more appreciation for someone's question if they said..... > > > > "Hey i've checked the api docs and i'm still confused..... > > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/api/java/net/InetAddress.html > > " > > > > then we could get a level and start to HELP.... not just do a quick fix >for > > the same person to come back two hours later and ask the same question. > > > > Seek and you shall find. > > > > Jason > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alan Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 15 August 2002 14:20 > > To: JDJList > > Subject: [jdjlist] RE: Get Client's Ip address/machine name > > > > > > ||| Still, his solution was better than the one that you posted ! > > > > if the person can't be bothered to read the documentation ... then we >become > > nothing more than free consultancy. > > > > Its just being lazy. > > > > To change your membership options, refer to: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > > > > > To change your membership options, refer to: > > http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm > > >===== > >Mark Zawadzki Performance Engineer/DBA/Programmer extraordinaire� >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build >bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to build >bigger and better idiots. > >So far, the universe is winning" > > Robert Cringle (columnist, author, host of "Triumph of the Nerds") > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com > >To change your membership options, refer to: >http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm ----------------------------------------------- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.com IT Consultant _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To change your membership options, refer to: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm
