I have worked on both JDeveloper and WebSphere Studio Application
Developement.(WSAD).JDev is a very robust and a decent tool. WSAD is also a
nice tool but the latest version of WASD is version 5 (beta). The problem is
, as of now ,this version is supporting jdk1.3 Yes ! there is no support for
jdk1.4 I guess IBM has promised to provide the 1.4 support to this version
(i.e. when version 5 is released)
Oracle JDev supports 1.4. Nevertheless both the tools are decent as per
functioning is concerned.

The biggest problem that i have encountered is that JDev. creates a method
JbInit()
which it uses to build the GUI.As you place controls on the form , all of
them
get listed in the JbInit().WSAD creates an initialize() method for building
the GUI
and for every control that you place on the form, it creates a getter
method. This
method is then called in respective panel's getter method (in which the
component is placed) which is then called in the initialize().I don't know
if such a methodlogy of designing is a design pattern .. but it does create
migration problems because you just cant open a JDev file in WSAD and expect
it to be visible in the visual editor. On the whole both tools are good.


regards

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 7:22 AM
Subject: [jdjlist] RE: Which IDE to use


> A few comments:
>
>
> At 07:30 PM 12/4/2002 -0500, George Mitchell wrote:
> >I asked this question over a year and half ago and opted for Jbuilder,
> >which my company has been using since then.  The other choice was IBM's
> >Visual Age - both of these products have consistently vied for first and
> >second place in various product reviews for several years now.
>
> Visual Age is no longer supported. IBM now offers, instead, the
> Eclipse-based WebSphere Application Studio Developer. I personally liked
> VA, but some of it quirks (such as saving in a repository rather than the
> native file system) were kind of, well, quirky. I find WASD (and to a
> lesser extent Eclipse) to be a friendlier version of VA.
>
> [...]
>
> >Secondly, you should be aware that Oracle's Jdeveloper IDE is in fact a
> >rebranded version of Jbuilder.  Moreoever, Sybase has apparently decided
> >to stop developing its PowerJ product and has opted to integrate its
> >products with Jbuilder as well.  So that is a strong endorsement from
> >the top database companies.
> >
>
> The latest version of JDeveloper, 9i, is a significant improvement over
the
> 8i version based on JBuilder, from which I believe, it has diverged.
>
>
> >Finally, Borland has just purchased the TogetherSoft CASE tool so in the
> >near future there will be an integration between TogetherSoft's UML
> >modeling tool and Jbuilder to enable applications to be generated from
> >the object models.
>
> TogetherSoft and Borland are both involved in eclipse.org and it will be
> interesting to see what develops out of that.
>
>
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