I was not suggesting that generated code is better than hand written and I think most of us after a time end up coding most Swing by hand. How much of this is down to Swing and the fact that no effective visual design tool has been produced, I am not sure. When doing .NET GUI programming for example, it never occurs to me to compose a dialog by hand because the visual editor makes it so quick and easy (one of very few things which is better about .NET programming!). Visual Age's visual editor got very close to this goal but was so buggy that it was ultimately more efficient to program it by hand (VAJ is dead, long live Eclipse!). However, when the pressure is on to quickly knock together a dialog, being able to just drop the relevant beans onto a pane can prove very useful.
-----Original Message----- From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 December 2002 12:58 To: JDJList Subject: [jdjlist] RE: Which IDE to use Right... but again, the best Swing guy I know writes all of his Swing code by hand anyway. So a chisel and stone - if it had a digital interface - would work well for him. I don't see why people think GENERATED code is always better than hand-written code, even when it comes to conservation of time. The time you'll spend tweaking the generated code would have been better spent writing better code in the first place... unless you're happy with subpar code. Something tells me, given the overall opinion that Swing's pretty but dumb and slow, that people aren't happy with generated Swing code... so why encourage more of the same crap? ======================================================================= Information in this email and any attachments are confidential, and may not be copied or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor disclosed to any third party without our permission. There is no intention to create any legally binding contract or other commitment through the use of this email. Experian Limited (registration number 653331). Registered office: Talbot House, Talbot Street, Nottingham NG1 5HF ____________________________________________________ To change your JDJList options, please visit: http://www.sys-con.com/java/list.cfm Be respectful! Clean up your posts before replying ____________________________________________________
