Hi Guido, A new proposal is attached below.
On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:03 AM, Guido Anzuoni wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:Hi Erik, Thanks for clarifying your proposal.I agree that this improves portability, but with a penalty. You can nolonger use optimistic concurrency once you decide to do some native SQL, even if you don't ever perform any INSERT, DELETE, or UPDATE statements. And this will have negative performance consequences for some applications.While backward compatibility is important, I would agree with you thatcorrectness is even more important. So it doesn't bother me too much if we change the semantic so that by default, getting a datastore connection is equivalent to doing a flush in an optimistic transaction. But I'd still like to give the user the ability to get the same level of performance they now enjoy by deferring the enlistment in the datastore transaction to flush or commit. So how about adding a flag that defaults to true if not specified to enlist the datastore connection in the datastore transaction? <proposed> Connection getDataStoreConnection() This method is equivalent to getDataStoreConnection(true).
Seems like the default should be different based on whether you are in a JDO transaction.
So maybe the default should be getDataStoreConnection (pm.currentTransaction().isActive())
In this case, the user does not know that his request has not been honored.Connection getDataStoreConnection(boolean enlist) If this method is called outside an active transaction, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction, regardless of the setting of the enlist parameter.
Maybe it makes sense to throw a JDOUserException, since there is no transaction in which to enlist the connection, and the default is false. A user can only get the exception by asking for something that is impossible.
Again, the implementation might do something different from what requested.If it is called while a datastore transaction is active, the object returned will be enlisted in the current transaction, regardless of the setting of the enlist parameter.
Right, either a non-enlisted connection (enlist==false) or the connection enlisted in the current transaction.
The use case for this is to grab a non-enlisted connection that is used e.g. to get a sequence number that will never be rolled back.
If it is called while an optimistic transaction is active, and the enlist parameter is true, a datastore transaction is begun if notalready begun, and the object returned will be enlisted in the currentdatastore transaction. If it is called while an optimistic transaction is active, the enlist parameter is false, and a datastore transaction is already begun, the object returned will be enlisted in the datastore transaction.Same as above
Right, either a separate non-enlisted connection (enlist==false) or the connection enlisted in the current transaction (enlist==true).
If it is called while an optimistic transaction is active, the enlist parameter is false, and a datastore transaction is not already begun,the object returned will not be enlisted in any datastore transaction.</proposed>What if the user issues some INSERT, DELETE, UPDATE ?
This is the user's choice, which is not a default behavior, but something explicitly asked for. The default will always be to get an enlisted connection, and the only way to get a non-enlisted connection is to ask for it.
Is it possible to call conn.commit() ?
Yes, the non-enlisted connection changes were already committed (auto- commit). We should add this to the spec, that the non-enlisted connection is auto-commit.
I agree that there is a potential penalty in optimistic transactions ifwe blindly enlist native connections but, if we let the user know exactly what is going on, an aware decision can be taken. getDataStoreConnection() will always return the enlisted connection if any, otherwise null is returned (maybe getNativeConnection() could return null).
I think that returning null is never the right behavior.
Now, if the user wants to access a consistent backend, he HAVE toflush(), triggering connection enlistment (what if there are no pendingupdates ?). If the user wants to operate on an independent connection to the same datastore used by the PM he could use what is configured in the PMF (OK, some helper methods might...help).
I think that inventing a parallel mechanism is overkill if we can give users what the need from this one.
It could be also achieved with a different handling of the proposed enlist flag for the 'false' scenarios, but it would be strange to request to thePM a datastore connection the PM is not using at all !!!. It would looklike a data source.
Yes, that's the intent. There is no need for the user to somehow go behind the scenes to figure out how the PMF is configured and get a connection from that same data source.
Craig <proposed> Connection getDataStoreConnection()This method is equivalent to getDataStoreConnection (pm.currentTransaction().isActive()). That is, it defaults to getDataStoreConnection(true) is a JDO transaction is active, and getDataStoreConnection(false) if not.
JDOConnection getDataStoreConnection(boolean enlist)This method returns either a JDOConnection whose underlying native connection is enlisted in the native datastore transaction in use by the persistence manager; or a JDOConnection whose underlying native connection is not enlisted in any native transaction. An unenlisted connection is set to auto-commit if using a data source that has this concept (e.g. JDBC).
If this method is called outside an active transaction, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called outside an active transaction, with the enlist parameter true, JDOUserException is thrown.
If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, with the enlist parameter true, the object returned will be enlisted in the current native datastore transaction.
If this method is called while an optimistic transaction is active, with the enlist parameter false, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction. If this method is called while an optimistic transaction is active, and the enlist parameter is true, a native datastore transaction is begun if not already begun, and the object returned will be enlisted in the current native datastore transaction.
</proposed> Craig
Guido.Craig On Apr 8, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Erik Bengtson wrote:Hi, This is a change proposal to the spec with regards to enlistment of native connections when optimistic transactions are used. The enlistment of native connections into a JDO transaction is conditioned tothe fact that a flush call has been performed before the connection isobtained.The flush call is a JDO implementation decision which can differ betweendifferent implementations. See the example: 1. tx.begin(); 2. //more operations here.... 3. JDOConnection conn = pm.getDataStoreConnection(); 4. Connection sqlconn = (Connection) conn.getNativeConnection(); 5. sqlconn.execute("DELETE FROM ANIMAL WHERE NAME = 'CAT'") 5. conn.close(); 6. tx.rollback(); There are two possible behaviors:- The JDO implementation decides to perform a flush between 1 and 3: the connection is enlisted, and DELETE all CATS from ANIMAL is rolled back - The JDO implementation decides to NOT perform a flush between 1 and3: the connection is not enlisted, and DELETE all CATS from ANIMAL is not rolled backAs you can see, this is not portable and not ACID, so I would like toproposethat enlistment of connections is done whenever a transaction is opened.The change is to the following paragraph: The JDO spec ยง12.16 - getDataStoreConnection: "If this method is called while a datastore transaction is active, the objectreturned will be enlisted in the current transaction. If called in anoptimistic transaction before flush has been called, or outside an active transaction, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction." AS: "If this method is called while a datastore or optimistc transaction is active, the object returned will be enlisted in the current transaction. If called outside an active transaction, the object returned will not be enlisted in any transaction."Craig RussellArchitect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ jdo408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
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